Transcript [00:13] With Israeli and American elections [00:15] pending, the relationship between the [00:17] two countries is likely to change in [00:19] significant ways. That says nothing of [00:22] the struggles within American jewelry to [00:24] unite on something resembling a common [00:27] political path forward. Today we sit [00:29] down with the dean of the organized [00:31] American Jewish community, Malcolm [00:33] Homeline, to get the American view. [00:40] Malcolm Holine, thank you so much for [00:41] taking the time to join us here. What a [00:44] couple of weeks ahead of us. The Israeli [00:46] elections, the American midterms. My [00:49] goodness, a lot of changes coming and uh [00:52] really very little idea of what it's all [00:54] going to mean in the end. K, if you can [00:56] give us kind of a a lay of the land and [00:58] what you anticipate is on the way and [01:00] what you believe are the big challenges [01:02] for American jewelry going forward come [01:05] uh November 4th and beyond. [01:07] >> Well, I think this is uh certainly as [01:09] the Chinese curse goes, may you live in [01:11] interesting times, I think even that's [01:13] being overdone. Uh one thing I can [01:16] assure you, you won't be bored, nor will [01:18] your viewers and listeners be bored [01:21] because I think we're in for a very [01:23] challenging time ahead. Specifically, we [01:26] can talk about the domestic agenda here [01:28] in the United States. Uh after the [01:31] elections, the midterm elections, we [01:33] will have to see who will control [01:34] Congress, how that will impact the [01:36] issues of vital concern to us [01:38] domestically and internationally, how it [01:40] will affect the balance in the in the [01:43] voting, which is right now very tenuous [01:46] as you know, and certainly the [01:49] relationship between Congress, the White [01:51] House, and our foreign partners. the [01:54] agenda is very full and then we look at [01:56] the international agenda and of course [01:59] the next steps regarding Iran are being [02:03] contemplated and being considered both [02:05] he in the United States in Israel and in [02:07] the region. We see the Ukrainian Russian [02:11] uh conflict uh subject to discussions [02:15] but not seeming to end. the movements in [02:18] various countries like in Lebanon and [02:23] Hamas in Gaza as well as the [02:25] developments in Syria, Turkeykey's [02:27] aggressive position, the movements on [02:29] the Muslim Brotherhood, the Sears [02:31] catalog of Tsaras that we and issues [02:33] that confront us are going to be uh [02:37] foremost on our agenda and all of them [02:39] impact Jewish security at a time when [02:41] anti-semitism is surging and certainly [02:44] sit at the top of everyone's concerns. [02:47] both at home and abroad. And I think [02:49] that this will likely be more true as we [02:52] head towards the end of the year. [02:54] >> You know, the Israeli election, it's a [02:56] complete jigsaw puzzle right now. And [02:58] even trying to anticipate who may garner [03:01] certain votes on election day, it [03:03] doesn't much matter in the end. It more [03:05] matters so the formation of the [03:07] government. But it's a little bit more [03:09] cut and dry here in the US right now. It [03:11] certainly appears by our old polling [03:13] that Democrats are going to take the [03:15] House. The Senate up for grabs. Not [03:17] looking as great as it as Republicans [03:20] would like it to be right now, but it [03:22] certainly seems like Democrats are going [03:24] to take the House in terms of you [03:26] organized American jewelry and [03:28] especially those on the center and the [03:30] right. Is there some sort of planning at [03:32] this point for how to tackle what is [03:35] likely to be hostile toward Israel house [03:39] coming up uh come January? [03:41] >> There's a lot of discussion and a lot of [03:44] anticipation trying to predict what the [03:47] outcome will be. Although we see that [03:49] many races hang in the balance and one [03:52] can't be sure that the house will fall. [03:54] It's it is predicted. It's likely but [03:56] it's not a certainty. in the same uh [03:58] regarding the control of the Senate [04:00] which is more likely to h remain in [04:03] Republican hands. So you're likely to [04:05] see a stalemate and even if both houses [04:08] go then there will be a stalemate [04:09] between Congress and the president and [04:12] contentious relationships uh likely for [04:14] the next two years after that if that is [04:17] the case. So I hope that the outcome [04:20] will be somewhat different and will [04:21] enable us to address the vital concerns [04:24] at home and uh and abroad. The the [04:28] thinking that is going on now is trying [04:31] to anticipate [04:32] the changes that are taking place and [04:35] how the American Jewish community can [04:36] best position itself whatever the [04:39] outcome. We're seeing a dramatic shift [04:41] in terms of the traditional Jewish [04:44] alliance and and and voting for the [04:45] Democratic party. uh some of the numbers [04:48] and some of the polls that have been [04:49] done are quite shocking in fact to [04:52] demonstrating the shift here in New [04:54] York. Uh Governor Hokll is is many [04:57] points behind where Cuomo was and [05:01] nationally we are seeing this shift [05:03] because of the DSA and other elements in [05:06] the Democratic party. hostility towards [05:08] Israel, even on the part of some former [05:11] traditional friends who are at least [05:13] waffling and subjecting themselves to [05:17] the influence of the the DSA and the [05:19] extreme left, the haters who exist in [05:22] the Democratic party and as well as some [05:25] on the extreme right of the Republican [05:26] party. These are all grave concerns. [05:30] These are long-term concerns. we think [05:32] about what the children and [05:34] grandchildren of this generation will be [05:37] facing. I I have to say that I think to [05:40] a large part we failed this generation. [05:43] We promised them never again and what [05:45] we're giving them is ever again. So many [05:47] of the challenges of the past are [05:49] arising again. So many of the threats [05:52] and it will take a unified community. So [05:54] the first priority I think after the [05:55] election is for the Jewish community [05:57] itself to be united to come up with [06:00] coordinated approaches. There are some [06:02] remarkable developments going on. There [06:04] are very important new initiatives but [06:07] it will take time till they mature and [06:09] we have to have a coalescence there. [06:11] There's too much divisiveness [06:13] in our own community and we have to try [06:16] to educate this next generation. We have [06:18] to re-engage them not just in the wake [06:20] of an October 7th but looking at the [06:23] future in a positive way to foster the [06:26] USIsrael relationship which is fraying [06:28] in many places. I think we have to go [06:31] back to fundamentals and get people to [06:32] understand that this is a battle as we [06:34] saw in France and we see in Europe we [06:36] see elsewhere a battle for Western [06:38] civilization. It's the fundamental [06:40] values that are being challenged. This [06:42] is not just about Jews, but as in every [06:44] case, Jews are usually the first [06:46] victims, but we're not the last. And we [06:48] have to get people to understand the [06:50] broader stakes that are at play and at [06:53] risk in what has been happening. [06:56] >> You mentioned new initiatives possibly [06:59] coming around the corner in order to [07:00] unite um American jewelry. Can can you [07:03] get into specifics on those? [07:06] >> The initiatives that are underway? [07:08] >> Yes. [07:09] >> Uh some yes, some no. There are um [07:13] efforts to build coalitions [07:16] across the board in with the black [07:18] community. People wanting to resurrect [07:20] the old black coalitions and one that I [07:22] was involved in many many years ago. [07:24] basic I have leaders from those era that [07:26] era who have come to me and said we want [07:28] to re-engage and there are dinners [07:31] taking place meetings taking place [07:33] across the country and even new [07:35] alliances like for instance the Hindu [07:37] Jewish alliance and with Asian-Americans [07:39] and other communities and certainly [07:41] outreach to the Hispanic community. We [07:43] need to build ties. We need to look back [07:45] to the coalitions of the past and see [07:48] how we can and where we can resurrect [07:51] them. We can't write them off. We can't [07:52] live in isolation and this community [07:56] needs a government. We our community [07:59] that needs law and order to survive. We [08:02] need to see stability. I fear very much [08:06] what the consequences of an economic [08:08] downturn would yield in terms of spiking [08:12] anti-semitism which is already at record [08:14] levels. To fight anti-semitism is not [08:17] just a Jewish battle. And many will [08:19] argue it's not a Jewish problem. It's [08:21] America's problem. It's a non-truth [08:22] problem, but we're the victims and we [08:24] pay the price for it. So, I think the [08:27] efforts that are underway, not only to [08:29] enhance security of our communities and [08:32] the wonderful work of the of SCAN and [08:35] many others, the community services [08:37] groups uh and efforts around the country [08:41] are a priority and are being addressed. [08:43] But we're also looking about how to [08:45] fight back, how to be more uh [08:47] efficacious, whether it's in the [08:49] business and professional worlds, [08:51] whether it's in building uh ties and [08:54] using the leverage that our community [08:56] has that has not been exercised. And [08:58] that means reaching out to many of those [09:00] who are most capable in our community to [09:03] to do more to uh those who lived on the [09:06] margins of our community to understand [09:08] that all of us have are at stake. I hear [09:11] from people in the sea suite on wall [09:13] street who are telling me I never would [09:15] have believed that it's in my boardroom [09:17] they make anti-semitic comments with me [09:19] sitting there that the medical [09:21] profession 75% say that they have [09:24] experienced anti-semitism so we are [09:26] looking at ways to strengthen our [09:28] advocacy efforts within those [09:30] communities there are about 160 [09:32] organizations that have been created [09:34] since since the uh uh attack against [09:38] Israel And this is a time when we have [09:42] to look for positive and assertive ways. [09:45] We have to get our young people to be [09:47] proud proud and that means doing more to [09:50] engage them. A lot of them have [09:52] undertaken these initiatives and they [09:54] want to work outside the traditional [09:56] framework. I believe we have to merge [09:58] them and bring both sides together to be [10:01] efficacious. Uh October 7th was a [10:04] turning point but it it cannot be an end [10:06] and of itself. We have to have positive [10:09] identification just as we understand how [10:11] serious the stakes are for our future. [10:15] >> How much are the results of the Israeli [10:18] election going to impact what happens [10:21] here in Washington in your view? You [10:23] know, there is, I don't know, concern or [10:25] anticipation. I've heard some in the [10:28] Jewish community say that in terms of [10:30] Democrats who constantly repeat the [10:32] refrain, the Netanyahu government, the [10:34] Netanyahu government. If there's another [10:36] government in place, what are they going [10:38] to say at that point? Is is the mask [10:40] going to come off and it's simply going [10:41] to be Israel Israel instead of the [10:43] Netanyahu government? How much do you [10:45] anticipate the results of the Israeli [10:46] election actually impacting those who [10:48] are criticizing not Israel but the [10:51] Netanyahu government if there is indeed [10:54] a change uh in Jerusalem? [10:57] >> Well, it's something I do think about. I [10:58] think it's a very good question and we [11:00] don't know the answer. But the [11:02] demonization of Netanyahu and the effort [11:04] to say, "Well, I I care about Israel. I [11:06] love Israel, but I hate Netanyahu." [11:09] What basis do they hate Netanyahu? The [11:12] fact is that it's an excuse to be able [11:14] to say and to to yield to the extremist [11:17] elements and say, "Well, we're against [11:18] Netanyahu. We hate, but they're [11:20] introducing sanctions or 160 sanctions [11:23] against Israel." We know that there are [11:25] those who are are trying in Europe now [11:27] to sanction the West Bank and to [11:29] demonize the population there and [11:31] whatever issues there are there can be [11:34] addressed but that is not the real [11:36] concern. It's hypocritical in the parts [11:38] of most of these people. They don't care [11:39] about all the suffering of the world. [11:41] They talk about genocide only in one [11:42] country where it doesn't exist. They [11:44] talk about the famine which didn't [11:46] exist. The demonization of Israel. Then [11:48] they realized that focusing on Netanyahu [11:51] was a kosher way for them to do it. It [11:53] is not acceptable that his ple a [11:56] democratically elected prime minister. [11:58] We can disagree with policies both that [12:01] he undertook and which the government [12:02] undertook. No government is perfect. [12:04] They make mistakes and criticism is [12:06] legitimate. That's not what we're [12:08] seeing. What we're seeing really is [12:10] undermining the very viability and [12:12] legitimacy of the state of the state of [12:15] Israel and the right of Jews to have [12:17] what every other people in the world is [12:19] accorded and that's the right of [12:20] self-determination of a homeland of our [12:23] own, an ancient homeland, not the [12:25] usurpers of of territory. So I think you [12:29] know there will be attempts and I'm sure [12:30] many in Congress and of the extreme [12:33] elements who are hostile to Israel will [12:35] will latch on to it. We have to resist [12:37] it. It doesn't mean again that we [12:39] endorse every candidate or every [12:42] personality. I hope that there will be [12:44] changes [12:45] and with the government, but as the [12:47] polls now show Netanyahu moving into the [12:51] lead. It's it's a very tenuous thing and [12:53] of course they have to build coalitions [12:55] and we hope that they will they will [12:58] yield to a a a broader coalition that [13:02] will uh reflect to the values that [13:05] traditionally Israel has upheld and [13:07] continues to uphold and that the Jewish [13:10] people support. We will be there for [13:12] Israel. I think the American people are [13:14] coming to greater and greater [13:16] appreciation. I think aliyah will [13:18] increase both from Europe because they [13:20] have to and Americans because they want [13:21] to and that the the bonds between the [13:25] two will while they sometimes get frayed [13:28] I think will be stronger because of the [13:31] challenges that we are facing. [13:33] >> How did you read President Trump's [13:35] recent comments? He seemed to wasn't [13:37] explicit, but it was implicit that if [13:40] there's a different prime minister in [13:42] Israel after the elections that it could [13:44] impact the um the lengths to which uh [13:47] the US will go to defend Israel and to [13:50] fight Iran uh on behalf of defending [13:52] Israel. I mean, is is there concern [13:55] within the American Jewish community [13:57] that that kind of um a a a change in [14:00] policy might actually be forthcoming or [14:02] do you think that was that was rhetoric [14:04] from the president just kind of on [14:06] behalf of his guy there in Jerusalem? [14:08] >> Yeah, it was certainly an unusual uh [14:10] endorsement. It's probably the strongest [14:12] endorsement any president ever gave a [14:14] prime minister. It's not the first. I [14:16] remember President Clinton on Perez and [14:18] others who got involved in in sometimes [14:21] in domestic um Israeli politics and [14:25] because they feel so close that and [14:27] because the two countries as democracies [14:30] uh feel that they can play in each [14:32] other's backyards. I think in this case [14:35] you picked up something which very few [14:37] people noticed and that was the comment [14:38] about Iran where he said essentially I [14:42] would not be prepared or disincined to [14:45] do anything on Iran if I don't have an [14:47] Israel led by Netanyahu to stand by my [14:50] side. He was extremely complimentary [14:54] and I'm sure it will have some impact in [14:57] Israel. Although I think most people, [15:00] you know, vote the party and because of [15:02] the the list systems and the multiple [15:04] parties, they they go with those that [15:06] most closely reflect their views. We see [15:08] some already dropping out because [15:09] they're not crossing the threshold. So [15:12] it it will be uh the the impact of the [15:15] endorsement itself is probably more [15:18] reassuring in terms of USIsrael [15:20] relationship and that is very important [15:22] to all Israelis care about what's [15:25] happening in America and some of the [15:26] president's past comments critical of [15:28] Netanyahu I think were were assuaged by [15:31] this comment but the fundamentals of the [15:34] relationship remain strong and the [15:36] events in the world and especially v [15:39] Iran and other forces the forces of [15:41] extremism and terrorism. The [15:43] anti-democratic forces need a strong [15:45] Israel standing with a very strong [15:47] America and joined by many other [15:51] countries. We have to expand the Abraham [15:52] Accords. We have to move in the [15:54] Mediterranean initiatives. We have to [15:56] bring together a coalitions of countries [15:59] more and more to coalesce around the [16:01] common values and and principles because [16:04] everybody's future at stake. You see in [16:07] Europe that you cannot stop anything at [16:08] a border anymore. hatred, anti-semitism [16:11] all move across borders, but so does [16:13] violence and so does the undermining of [16:15] populations which many European [16:17] governments brought upon themselves. So [16:19] I think the the strength of the USIsrael [16:22] relationship is a top priority for [16:24] Israelis. I think it it is for many in [16:26] America, Jews and non-Jews who care [16:29] about it and want to see it [16:30] strengthened. And I hope it'll be on a [16:33] bipartisan basis. We need Democrats and [16:36] we need Republicans, conservatives, [16:37] liberals, all of them. we need from [16:40] everyone and they don't all have to [16:42] agree. They have to assess the situation [16:44] and say what is my obligation to my [16:47] grandchildren. How do I best fulfill [16:50] that responsibility so that they have a [16:52] better world? [16:54] >> Yeah. I I want to ask you because we [16:55] we've talked a little bit about what is [16:58] kind of the planning and the reaction [17:00] visav the changes that are coming on on [17:03] Capitol Hill and in the administration. [17:06] But what about the changes within [17:08] organized American jewelry? I mean, you [17:10] were the executive vice president of the [17:12] conference of presidents of major [17:14] American Jewish organizations for for [17:16] years. There are elements within the [17:18] conference of presidents which [17:19] represents a just the broadest swath [17:21] possible of American jewelry. There [17:23] there is a a contingent uh that that [17:26] backs these types of sanctions that [17:28] we're talking about. So while a divided [17:31] house might lead to compromise on on on [17:33] or divided capital I should say might [17:35] lead to some compromise on some points, [17:38] divided American jury, is it going to [17:40] lead to any compromise within within [17:42] that particular house or is it just [17:44] going to expose kind of the divisions [17:46] that have been uh brewing for quite some [17:48] time? [17:49] >> Well, I think both things are true. Uh [17:51] th those elements do not exist within [17:53] the conference. anybody's not supporting [17:56] you know fundamentally their military [17:58] support for Israel, Israel's independent [18:00] security, etc. There are elements [18:02] outside who have said things that are [18:04] irresponsible and the community should [18:06] hold them to account for for what they [18:09] say and for what they do. But unity has [18:13] always been the one prerequisite for [18:15] every great thing that has happened from [18:16] the Jewish people. When since we stood [18:19] as one person with one heart at Mount Si [18:21] to the rescue of Russian Jews and [18:22] Ethiopian Jews and Syrian Jews and [18:24] Yemeni Jews, Iraqi Jews was only when [18:26] Jews came together and recognized that [18:28] what we have in common far aways our [18:30] differences. Unfortunately, today [18:32] everybody plays on our differences. and [18:33] the internet uh underscores that more [18:36] and and because you can have such a [18:38] multiplicity of views being expressed [18:40] and it's very hard for people to discern [18:43] what is the truth and with AI and with [18:45] some of the manipulation of AI you know [18:47] things that even what you see and what [18:49] you read you can't believe and unless [18:51] you experience it yourself it's probably [18:53] not something you can assume is true so [18:57] the importance right now I I worked my [19:00] whole career and for more than 60 years [19:02] I led umbrella organizations because I [19:04] really believe in cloud Israel. I [19:06] believe in the unity of the Jewish [19:08] people as an essential for our security [19:11] and for meeting our obligations to the [19:13] generations to come and this is a time [19:16] when it is being challenged. There have [19:18] always been strains in the community. [19:20] But when we came together, we took on [19:22] the Soviet Union. We turned the iron [19:24] curtain together Russian led by Russian [19:26] Jews into a Venetian blind. We changed [19:29] countries by virtue of the fact that we [19:31] stood up. We stood for moral principle. [19:33] We stood for what we believe in. And we [19:35] stood for the unity of our people as [19:38] well as coalitions with others. And this [19:40] is a time when we have to reassess it. [19:43] Too many of these things have been taken [19:44] for granted or been diminished on the [19:47] communal agenda. That is not tolerable. [19:49] And the license to say things without [19:52] accountability against Israel, against [19:54] the prime minister of Israel, against [19:56] leaders, against others. We have to [19:58] think of what are the consequences. When [20:00] I hear people on radio attacking people [20:02] on the left, attack Jews on the right [20:04] because they don't agree with with them. [20:06] Think of what an impact this has and [20:08] what is your responsibility today and [20:10] frankly I think it's the leadership that [20:12] has to hold them to account. And I think [20:14] and you know that I've called publicly [20:16] for a doge the Jewish community that we [20:19] have to see how our communal dollars are [20:21] being spent. We're spending well into [20:23] the nine figures fighting anti-semitism. [20:26] We win some battles but we're losing the [20:28] war. It needs to be reallocated. It [20:30] needs to be have much greater discipline [20:33] and I hope that the major donors will [20:36] join in this effort and bring forensic [20:38] accountants and review with the [20:39] organization see where we can have [20:40] mergers where we can have greater [20:42] cooperation. That's what the conference [20:44] was created to do and and remains as an [20:47] a central umbrella an forum where a wide [20:51] variety of people can come together [20:53] discuss issues and you know what in more [20:55] than 90% of the cases you can find a [20:57] consensus on which we can then build [21:00] that we find out that what we have in [21:01] common far outweighs our differences. [21:04] But too much of the effort is made on [21:06] the differences and trying to stake out [21:08] unique positions rather than saying what [21:10] do we do together and how do we build [21:13] all of us will benefit from it. [21:15] >> So on that note because I wanted to [21:17] follow up on something you said earlier [21:19] which was was profound. I really haven't [21:21] heard many in the organized jurist [21:24] community say it that that we failed um [21:26] and that the failures have kind of shown [21:28] here. So we talk about some of the [21:30] solutions going forward here and you [21:32] know uh finding new new alliances that [21:34] kind of fell apart in the wake of [21:36] October 7th to forensic accounting and [21:38] trying to figure out how to more [21:40] efficiently spend communal dollars and [21:42] so on and so forth. Is there an appetite [21:46] within American jewelry to undertake [21:48] these things because everybody has their [21:50] little kingdom, everybody has their [21:52] little fifom and everybody wants to kind [21:54] of run things their way. There is such a [21:56] disparate number of organizations. We [21:58] call it the alphabet soup and so many [22:01] different points of view on where things [22:03] should go. Can there be anything [22:05] resembling a common path forward or are [22:08] there too many disparate elements to [22:10] really to really chart that path? [22:13] >> I do believe it's possible. I believe [22:15] events may accelerate that process. Uh [22:19] first of all when I I say that we've [22:20] failed we've had great successes and as [22:23] I I talked about the rescue of [22:25] communities that were written off to [22:26] Jewish history that were brought back [22:28] and saved. I think if you look at our [22:30] educational network the system of in [22:32] institutions that we've established in [22:34] the United States and and abroad as [22:36] well. I think that there are many great [22:38] successes. What I'm talking about is [22:40] what we are leaving the next generation. [22:43] And I think that we have to be honest [22:46] with ourselves when we look at it. the [22:48] next generation there are remarkable [22:50] young people deeply committed emerging [22:53] uh out of out of the uh I don't know [22:56] anymore if it's XYZ generations but and [22:58] all of them but all of them are [23:01] important to us and we have to give [23:02] greater emphasis and greater involvement [23:04] for them in our communities they are [23:06] creating their own institutions some are [23:08] remarkable when you go to the major [23:10] social clubs and you see Friday night [23:12] events that they started and then they [23:14] became Shabbat events and we are now [23:16] working with some of those clubs to to [23:18] enhance those efforts. Some are very [23:20] creative, some and it's only an extreme [23:22] example of what could be done. We have a [23:26] great record to look at and we have have [23:29] had great leadership in our community. [23:31] Any community would be proud of the kind [23:33] of leadership that we have been blessed [23:35] with in in our community. But it is [23:37] shifting and we have to see to it that [23:40] the great talent that rests in the next [23:43] generations is properly exploited and I [23:46] mean exploited for the community that [23:48] they have to understand why this is [23:50] important to them. That's the message. [23:52] They are not hedonistic. They want to [23:54] know what does it mean to me? How do I [23:56] make a difference? And when you show [23:58] them what a difference they can make and [24:00] they have they will be more involved. [24:03] They will engage others. I I I see [24:06] amazing initiatives and we don't have [24:08] the time maybe a future show we can [24:10] bring on the people and see some of the [24:12] new remarkable efforts but they also [24:15] universalizing the message saying what [24:17] is really at stake for America get [24:19] people to understand that we are at the [24:21] forefront the Jewish community of a [24:23] battle that that targets Christians that [24:26] targets others even some Muslims but [24:30] most of all it undermines the principles [24:32] of the United States the freedoms that [24:34] we enjoy [24:35] and the position of the United States as [24:37] leaders of the free world and [24:39] representing those democratic principles [24:41] which we want to protect. [24:43] >> We have just about 20 seconds left. Real [24:45] quick, after a lifetime of Jewish [24:47] service in such an uncertain time now, [24:50] what's your biggest uh uh opportunity [24:53] coming up here and what keeps you up at [24:55] night quickly? [24:57] >> Everything keeps me up at night. I don't [24:58] sleep much because I'm working on the [25:00] issues that we have just discussed. But [25:02] as I said, I think Jewish unity, I think [25:04] I don't take Israel's uh ability to [25:06] survive no matter what. I believe it [25:08] will, but it's not something we can take [25:10] for granted, nor the security and the [25:12] role of American jewelry. These are all [25:14] things we need to do. And I want to see [25:16] and my hope is that the leadership uh [25:19] across the board will come together to [25:21] help us enable us to implement a program [25:24] that will address those responsibilities [25:26] and assure that never again is a pledge [25:29] we pass on to the next generation. [25:31] Malcolm Homeline, we always appreciate [25:33] your time and your wisdom. Thank you so [25:35] much for joining us and uh we will talk [25:37] to you again what's going to be a very [25:40] consequential week in the [25:41] Israeli-American relationship next time [25:44] on American View. [25:45] >> It's my pleasure and I thank you for [25:47] what you do in informing the American [25:49] people and the Israeli people about the [25:51] issues. [25:52] >> Thank you, Malcolm.
