Transcript [00:00] The stories that I heard growing up from [00:01] my grandparents when citizens, their [00:03] [ __ ] neighbors came to their home [00:05] with swords yelling Allah Akbar wasn't a [00:08] government official, wasn't the army. It [00:10] was citizens. Go look up the [00:12] >> Farhood. [00:12] >> No, I'm not talking because No, look, my [00:16] grandfather, his best friend was [00:17] actually a Jewish person and they were [00:20] actually business partners in Iraq. So [00:22] when it happened, it wasn't happening. [00:25] People was willing to do that. They were [00:27] living for centuries. [00:28] >> One second. I I don't care. [00:30] >> We [snorts] have this last one. Kaida [00:32] and then I got to go. Is Kaida are you [00:34] here? [00:35] >> Uh yes, it's here. Um actually, I'm here [00:38] just to say something just very simple [00:40] about the uh that you keep saying Arab [00:44] uh kicked the Jews out of their lands. [00:47] But it's not actually true because we [00:50] have to you're oversimplifying [00:52] the history because Jewish community [00:54] lived. Wait, wait, wait. Before Before [00:56] before you continue, before you [00:57] continue, would you would you say that [00:59] it's over an oversimplification to say [01:01] that Jews kicked the Palestinians out of [01:03] Palestine? [01:05] >> No, I'm talking about the Arab kicking [01:07] the Jewish [01:08] >> No, no, but I'm saying would you say [01:09] that that's an like if I said Jews [01:12] kicking Palestinians out of Palestine is [01:14] oversimplification? Would you agree with [01:15] me? [01:20] Or it's it's only an oversimplification [01:22] when you guys kick Jews out of the [01:23] country? No, because I'm I'm not talking [01:25] about that. You keep talking that [01:27] >> No, I I understand. I'm I'm trying to [01:29] establish like the our last guest, a [01:32] universal truth. Do you agree? If I say [01:35] that it's an over it's it's [01:36] oversimplified to say that Jews kicked [01:39] Palestinians out of Palestine, it's [01:41] wrong. It's not true. It's an [01:42] oversimplification. Would you would you [01:43] agree with me or you say you say no, [01:45] that's not true? [01:47] >> No, that's not true. [01:48] >> So, you do believe that Jews kick [01:50] Palestinians out of Palestine? [01:52] >> Yeah. [01:53] >> Okay. Okay. So, you guys kicked us out [01:54] of our homes. [01:55] >> No. No. It's not about that. [01:58] >> Kaida, you can't you can't have it both [02:00] ways. [02:00] >> Let me just Let me just finish. Let me [02:02] just You can't have it. You can't have [02:03] >> Because I'm not talking about [02:04] >> It's either It's either true or it's not [02:06] true. You can't have it both. [02:07] >> No, but we have We have We should not [02:09] compare now what's happening in [02:10] Palestine to what happened to the Jew. [02:12] >> I'm not comparing it. I'm not comparing [02:14] it to now. I'm comparing it to 1948. You [02:16] guys [02:18] You guys kicked us out of our homes. You [02:20] guys kicked us out of our homes. One [02:21] second. Listen. Listen, listen. You guys [02:24] kicked us out of our homes between the [02:26] early 30s, even early the late 20s, [02:28] early 30s, all of the 40s. That's when [02:30] my family was kicked out. The ' 50s, the [02:32] '60s, the '7s, until you got all he got [02:35] rid of all of us. The Palestinians that [02:37] happened in 1948 one time, and then [02:39] their population bmed in their land, [02:41] where they were born and raised, and [02:43] where they're from. So, if you're going [02:45] to say that you guys kicking us out of [02:47] our homes is not you kicking us out of [02:50] our homes, then Nakba didn't happen. And [02:52] I don't have anything else to talk to [02:53] you about. I don't I'm not going to [02:55] debate with you. It's either it's either [02:56] it all happened or it didn't happen. [02:58] >> No, but I'm not talking about that the [03:00] Arabs are the only one who is behind [03:03] kicking you out. [03:04] >> I am Ismani. I'm I've had enough of you [03:08] Muslims and you Arabs coming to me and [03:10] talking to me about Ashkanazi Jews. I am [03:12] not Ashkenazi. I am not [03:14] >> talking about the Ashkenazi. I'm talking [03:18] Arab leaders out of our home. You have [03:19] to understand and Arabs came to kill our [03:22] families. Kaida listen to me well. [03:25] Muslims Arabs kicked my family out of [03:28] their homes. [03:28] >> But you cannot say all Arabs because we [03:31] have to we have to defend because there [03:33] is there is a difference between [03:35] political leaders and there is a [03:36] difference between the civilians. When [03:38] you say all Arabs, [03:39] >> the civilians did it. The civilians were [03:42] the ones who kicked them out. [03:43] >> That's the truth. We know. We know. [03:46] >> You're going to tell Wait, you're going [03:47] to tell me. You're going to tell me what [03:49] happened to my family. You're going to [03:50] explain to me what happened to my [03:52] family. The stories that I heard growing [03:53] up from my grandparents when citizens, [03:56] their [ __ ] neighbors came to their [03:58] home with swords yelling Allahbar. It [04:00] wasn't a government official. Wasn't the [04:02] army. It was citizens. Go look up the [04:04] Farood. [04:05] >> No, I'm not talking because No, look, my [04:08] grandfather, his best friend was [04:10] actually a Jewish person and actually [04:13] business partners in Iraq. So when it [04:15] happened, it wasn't happening. people [04:18] was willing to do that. They were living [04:20] for centuries. [04:21] >> One second. I don't care if your dad's [04:23] best friend was Jewish. That's [04:25] wonderful. I grew up around a Muslim [04:27] family. They're like my uncle. [04:28] >> But you have to understand there's a [04:30] difference. [04:31] >> You think I don't understand this [04:33] between a difference of a civilian and [04:35] an army. It's the civilians I have a [04:37] problem with. Your people have a [04:40] problem. Your governments are actually [04:42] the ones who are showing the most [04:43] willingness to cooperate with Israel and [04:45] to actually make amends. It's your [04:47] people that are the problem. Go try to [04:50] be a Jew on the streets of Cairo today. [04:52] Not a Zionist, not an Israeli, a Jew, a [04:56] Jew. Try try to open a kosher [04:58] supermarket up in Cairo, the most [05:00] populous Arab country in the world. Go [05:02] show me how. [05:03] >> Why do they live all the time without [05:05] any problems and Sunday? [05:08] >> They didn't. You guys lie about it. They [05:11] didn't. You abused them for 1,400 years. [05:15] We did not live in the [05:16] >> Jews who lived in Iraq. Jews who lived [05:18] in Iraq. [05:19] >> The Jews who lived in Iraq. [05:20] >> The Jews who lived in Iraq decided to [05:23] leave in 1951 out of so much pressure by [05:26] the people and the government after four [05:30] four rounds of documented persecution. [05:33] And that's just in recent recorded [05:35] history. They did that for 1,400 [05:39] years everywhere in the Middle East. You [05:41] guys lied to us. You lied to yourselves. [05:44] We pretend like we lived in peace, but [05:46] that's not the truth. That is not the [05:48] truth. It's a lie. Your people, your [05:51] civilians, and your governments played a [05:53] part in ethnically cleansing us and [05:55] kicking us out of our homes. [05:57] >> Personally, I know so many Arab Jewish [06:00] and most of them when they talk about [06:02] their history and their great great [06:03] grandparents who lived in Iraq or other [06:05] places in the Arab countries, they said [06:08] that it was they lived in peace. It was [06:11] forced by the government, not the pupil. [06:14] They didn't have problems with the [06:15] civilians. Most of the people say that, [06:17] >> you know, you know, my grandfather, my [06:19] grandfather, this is telling me stories [06:20] of how much he loved growing up in Iraq. [06:22] But my grandfather was 13 when the [06:24] Farhood happened. 30 years before my [06:26] grandfather was born, the first the [06:29] second Farhood actually took place. The [06:30] Farhood that kicked my grandparents out [06:32] of Iraq was the third Farhood that had [06:34] happened in recent history. So, my [06:36] grandfather didn't have a memory of that [06:38] second Farood. and his great-grandfather [06:40] didn't have memory of the farood that [06:41] happened before it. They only remembered [06:44] that part of history that happened to [06:45] them. My grandfather endured the third [06:48] and final Farhood that ended up [06:50] ethnically cleansing them from the [06:51] country. It doesn't mean that everything [06:53] was okay because for 15 years that my [06:55] grandfather was alive, he had good [06:57] experiences because in one night all of [06:59] that changed. you guys [07:01] >> you're talking you're just talking about [07:03] uh the Jewish community but you're not [07:05] looking that the whole region have [07:07] suffered in decades of um of the [07:11] colonization and the rise of different [07:14] countries so what happened to the Jewish [07:16] people is not something less than what [07:18] happened to other people other [07:19] communities [07:20] >> that's I agree I talk about that every [07:22] day what you guys have done in the name [07:23] of Sunni Islam and Shia Islam to the to [07:27] the Yehudi to the Mandian to the Amaz to [07:30] the Yazidi to the cops to the Armenians. [07:32] What you guys have done and continue to [07:34] do is the reason why all of us in one [07:37] collective voice come together and [07:39] reject you. It is why we don't want to [07:40] live under you. It is why if you were to [07:42] give Assyrians a state today, they would [07:45] take it and build a strong army so that [07:47] Sunni Muslims could never threaten them [07:49] again. That's why if you were to give [07:50] the Coptic people a state, they would [07:52] build the strongest state in the Middle [07:54] East. Mind, remember what I said. If [07:56] that ever happens, inshallah, if you [07:57] were to give the Coptic Christians a [07:59] state today inside of Egypt, which would [08:01] never happen, they would build the [08:03] strongest state in the entire region and [08:05] they would kick the ass of anyone who [08:07] would [ __ ] with them, the Jews included. [08:09] That's why all of us reject you because [08:12] you guys abuse everyone. That's why [08:14] Armenians refuse to live next to [08:16] Muslims. There's no Muslims living in [08:18] >> Why should we always fight because based [08:20] on religions? Why should the fight based [08:23] on religion? We need to coexist. But [08:26] coexistence start with you guys. [08:28] Stopping to be supremacist. Stopping to [08:31] treat yourself as the top of the top. [08:33] Stopping to live to live like everybody [08:35] else is under you because you are God's [08:37] chosen people. Everything that you guys [08:39] project onto the Jews about how we're [08:41] the top and we are we we we're number [08:43] one and we we're God's chosen people. It [08:46] is literally what you guys do. Mind you, [08:48] you are the only religion in this [08:50] region. I don't want to visit Mecca. I [08:52] mean, it would be nice, but keep in [08:54] mind, you are the only religion from [08:56] Morocco to Iran who your holy site is [09:00] closed off for everyone except for you. [09:03] You're the only one and you're the [09:05] newest kid on the block. You guys only [09:08] came here 1,400 years. Everyone else in [09:10] this region has existed for thousands of [09:12] years before you. And you're the only [09:14] one in this region who has a their own [09:16] city that blocks off for anyone who's [09:18] not a Muslim. And by the way, I'm not [09:20] criticizing it. I like Saudi Arabia. I [09:22] appreciate them. If you want to have the [09:24] Cabba be only for the for the Muslims, [09:26] that is what it is. I'm not trying to [09:27] change it. But keep in mind, you are the [09:30] only ones who do that. You are the only [09:32] ones who stop people from praying at [09:34] your holy sites. You're the only ones [09:36] who bar people from entering places. How [09:39] can we coexist with an ideology like [09:41] this? This is not the Islam that [09:43] Muhammad that brought to Earth. The [09:45] Islam that you guys have today, the way [09:47] that you treat your countries and your [09:48] cities, [09:49] >> it's a political Islam. [09:50] >> It's a political. Yeah, but I'm not [09:52] supporting it. And you're corrupt. I [09:54] don't even [09:57] >> Yeah, but I am against in general that [10:00] we are fighting because some religions [10:02] think they have the right to exist more [10:04] than others. That's the whole point. [10:06] >> You are the only ones. You guys are the [10:09] only ones who [10:09] >> But now you're saying you guys, but how [10:11] do you know if I'm Muslim or not? [10:14] Are you not Muslim? [10:15] >> Yeah, I'm not Muslim. But you're now [10:17] accusing me for being a Muslim. [10:19] >> What are you? [10:20] >> I don't have any religion. [10:24] >> Are you originally Muslim before you? [10:26] >> No, I'm not originally Muslim. [10:28] >> What were you originally? [10:29] >> Christian. [10:30] >> Christian from the from the Arab world. [10:33] >> Yeah. [10:34] >> Okay. Well, my apologies. My apologies. [10:36] I speak to a lot to be fair. I don't [10:39] totally believe you. I speak to a lot of [10:40] Muslims who lie about who they are just [10:42] >> No, but the truth is I'm [10:45] >> regardless the point still stands. I [10:47] mean either way it doesn't change what I [10:49] said. Like the my point is still valid. [10:51] It's exactly the same whether you're [10:53] Christian or not. I'm saying you guys [10:54] cuz you took on the act of being a [10:56] Muslim. But if you're not [10:57] >> I'm not talking from the beginning. I'm [11:00] not talking about Islam or Jewish or the [11:02] Christian. I'm talking about the people, [11:04] the civilians. It doesn't give us the [11:06] right to kill each other just because I [11:08] believe my god is existing or having the [11:11] right to exist more than yours. I'm just [11:13] against that kind of fact. And when you [11:15] sit there and say, "Well, Arab kicked [11:17] Jewish people, so now we have the simple [11:19] right to kick Palestinians." [11:22] >> How many have been kicked? [11:25] >> He was giving you implying to when you [11:29] >> when Arabs kicked kicked us. Well, we [11:32] have the right now to kick them back. [11:33] >> No, Kaida. He was asking you if your [11:36] position is consistent on different [11:38] fronts. Is it only with the Farhood or [11:41] is it consistent back in 1948? [11:44] It wasn't a comparison. He was asking if [11:46] you're consistent. [11:46] >> Yeah. But the Jewish people when they [11:48] came in 1948 to Palestine, they they [11:50] went there as an as immigrants because [11:53] they were kicked out from different [11:55] places. So now they have the right to [11:57] kick people out. [11:58] >> You but you don't know your history. So [11:59] you don't know what we're talking about. [12:00] This is the problem. You guys talk out [12:02] of your ass so frequently. You have no [12:04] idea what you're talking about. The Jews [12:07] didn't come to Palestine. The Jews were [12:09] living in Palestine. There was between [12:10] 10 to 30,000 of them here. Always. They [12:14] never left. They had to watch the [12:16] empires change forces and they were [12:18] living under oppression. Mind you, I [12:20] brought it up earlier on the show. [12:21] Muslims banned Jews from praying at [12:24] their second holiest site for 750 years. [12:26] And then they built a shrine and mosque [12:28] on top of their holiest site. So, they [12:30] couldn't even pray there in safety [12:32] anymore. This is called colonization and [12:34] oppression by Arabs. This is what Arabs [12:36] did to the Jews in Israel. Don't talk to [12:39] me about Ashkenazi Jews moving there. [12:41] Some were escaping war. Some came and [12:44] bought land legally from Palestinians. [12:46] Don't misconstrue the whole thing [12:47] because you're being disingenuous. [12:50] You started this whole entire [12:51] presentation of yours by saying that [12:54] Arabs didn't kick out Jews or Muslims [12:56] didn't kick out Jews. And by the way, [12:58] that's why I thought you were a Muslim [12:59] cuz you were taking from the beginning. [13:01] That's why you that's why you took on [13:03] you took on the act of it wasn't [13:04] Christian Arabs who were kicking Jews [13:06] out of their homes. It was Muslims. [13:07] >> No, I I said I said Arabs did not [13:10] because we have to see that there is the [13:13] difference between Arabs people, normal [13:15] people and people ruling the government. [13:19] >> But that but but habibi that's just not [13:22] reality. It was the people who did most [13:24] of this. It was the people on the [13:26] ground. If you know the stories of how [13:28] the far took place in Iraq in 1941 on [13:31] June 2nd and June on June 1st and June [13:33] 2nd, you would know that it wasn't [13:35] necessarily the government who made it [13:36] happen. The government emboldened it. [13:38] And what the government did after was [13:40] definitely didn't help calm tensions, [13:42] but it was the people who took up arms [13:44] against the Jews. It was the people who [13:46] looted. It was the government actually. [13:48] It was the British government and the [13:49] Iraqi pseudo government at the time who [13:51] tried to calm tensions down that night. [13:54] But then they started playing into it [13:56] and when Saddam Hussein took power, you [13:58] know what they did? You do you know the [14:00] song Fog? [14:02] >> No, [14:03] >> it's the most famous Iraqi folk song. It [14:05] was written by Jewish people and [14:08] popularized in the early 1920s by uh [14:10] Salah al Kuwaiti who were they created [14:13] on the they created a makam called the [14:16] um [clears throat] [14:18] they created the Iraqi makam the what is [14:20] known as the Iraqi makam on the ud which [14:22] they which is done it's used today in [14:24] Iraq till today making music it was [14:26] popularized by them it was created by [14:28] them the song was made by them after the [14:31] Jews were kicked out of Iraq in the 50s [14:32] when Saddam Hussein took power he banned [14:35] and the song from being able to show the [14:37] accreditation. So if it would play on [14:39] your radio or if they were going to play [14:40] it on the radio and announce who the [14:42] song was by, they would never give [14:44] credit to the Jews who wrote the song. [14:46] They erased Jews from the libraries, [14:48] Jews from the uh scientific discoveries [14:50] that were made in Iraq, from the [14:52] government, from the history of the [14:53] country. They erased any semblance of [14:55] it. This was an action done by the [14:57] government, but it was also the people [15:00] who took part into it before and after. [15:03] And I my job is to talk to Arabs all [15:05] day. That's what I do every single day, [15:07] day in day out. You guys don't [15:09] necessarily uh what's it called? You [15:12] guys, the people themselves don't [15:13] necessarily show remorse for what you [15:16] guys did. And yes, everyone took a part [15:19] into it. I'm not saying the Christians, [15:21] I'll never blame the Christian Arabs cuz [15:22] you guys are a persecuted minority just [15:24] like us. And Christian Arabs who stand [15:26] with Islamists is very weird for me. But [15:27] I mean, f do whatever you want. But but [15:30] the Arab Muslims, specifically the [15:32] Sunni, have been acting terrible to [15:34] everyone. And that reign of terror needs [15:37] to end. It's going to end. It's going to [15:39] end. [15:39] >> When we talk about history, every [15:40] certain community have in somehow point [15:43] of history been suffering because of a [15:46] ruling uh or [15:49] a majority of ruling community. So [15:53] Jewish are not the only people who have [15:55] suffered. [15:56] >> I agree. I agree with you wholehearted. [15:58] That's why we all come together and say [15:59] we've had enough of Sunni Islam uh [16:02] hierarchy of supremacy. That's I agree. [16:05] I agree with you 100%. Jews aren't the [16:07] only ones who have suffered. Maybe [16:09] they've been one of the main characters [16:10] in the suffering. Maybe they've been [16:13] targeted more than other groups. I would [16:15] agree with that. But they have not been [16:17] the only ones. They have not been in [16:18] isolation. They maybe haven't even been [16:20] the ones who have been persecuted the [16:21] most. I would say that Arabs and Muslims [16:24] have done more for or done worse for [16:27] Africans in general, uh, specifically [16:29] West Africans and North Africans, what [16:32] they did to those people in the Arab [16:34] slave trade and what they continue to do [16:36] to black people today in the Middle [16:38] East, calling them Abid, calling having [16:41] a neighborhood in Gaza called Albid, [16:44] had the way that they oppress black [16:45] people in Iraq, the way that they [16:47] oppress black people in Syria, in [16:48] Palestine, [16:50] I would Hey, Jews maybe aren't even at [16:53] the top of the list of what you guys [16:54] have done. Not you, but actually, yeah, [16:57] you, but you're not really you, cuz [16:58] you're Christian. [16:59] >> We just wrote our [ __ ] down. [17:02] >> Yeah, we we we collected it better. We [17:04] remembered it. We we commemorated it. [17:08] Hhabibi Kaida, am I saying your name [17:11] right? Kaida. [17:12] >> Yeah, Kaida. [17:13] >> You guys are not evil people. Being an [17:15] adab isn't something you need to be [17:16] ashamed of. I don't want you guys to [17:18] fall. Actually, you guys are such a big [17:19] ego. You'll never do that. But I I I'm [17:22] not my I'm not necessarily trying to [17:23] shame you, but you have to be [17:25] accountable for the things that were [17:27] done in the past. People wonder why the [17:29] situation in Israel Palestine looks the [17:31] way it does today. How how can you [17:33] ethnically cleanse a million Jews from [17:35] their homes over the course of 30, 40 [17:37] years and expect none of that to bounce [17:40] back? You you didn't offer them any [17:42] solutions. You didn't give them [17:44] passports. You didn't offer them their [17:45] homes back, citizenship. Even today, I [17:47] wanted to leave. Let's say I wanted to [17:49] leave Israel and go back and live in [17:50] Iraq. I can't. I cannot do it. There's [17:54] no framework for it. Same thing for an [17:56] Egyptian Jew or a Lebanese Jew or a [17:58] Syrian Jew. We can't. We don't have a [18:00] home to go back to. You never offered a [18:03] solution, but we [clears throat] weren't [18:04] going to lay down our arms and die. My [18:06] grandparents are not losers. They're not [18:08] shahed. They're not trying to die. They [18:11] they don't believe in jihad. They [18:12] believe they believed in life. They [18:14] believed in in in practicing the Torah, [18:16] in being Jews and continuing their life. [18:18] And so, mashallah, they had many kids [18:21] and I I am part of a huge family and and [18:24] I'm part of a huge nation where we [18:26] reproduced and we went from a tiny group [18:28] of people to tens of to to millions and [18:31] now you can't get rid of us. So, what [18:33] are you going to do? [18:34] >> It's not about getting rid of of you [18:36] guys. It's the only problem is why can't [18:38] we all live in peace in the area? I [18:40] don't understand. Why should Israel have [18:42] the great Israel which want to extend to [18:45] different and more countries in the [18:47] region? [18:48] >> Can I tell you why should the Arabs have [18:50] the greater Arab countries? Don't you [18:52] think it's wrong that [18:53] >> which country is now in the Arab region [18:56] saying that they want to have the [18:57] greater Arab countries? [18:59] >> But that's what's happened right now. [19:00] Every country from Morocco to Iraq [19:02] speaks Arabic, is mostly Sunni Muslim or [19:05] Shia, oppresses Christians, oppresses [19:08] Jews, oppresses minorities, doesn't [19:11] allow for anybody to live or breathe. [19:13] You're complaining about the wrong [19:14] situation. Yeah, but you know that in [19:16] the 19 [19:17] >> you want to complain about greater [19:18] Israel, [19:19] >> but you know the region most of the [19:21] Middle Eastern most of the Middle [19:23] Eastern region was actually like one [19:25] huge country but under the Sispo [19:28] division they were divided into small [19:30] countries [19:30] >> under one one country under who? [19:34] >> They were ruled under different rulers [19:36] like in a period of time the Abbassi did [19:39] rule in period of time [19:41] >> and how and how were Jews treated during [19:42] that rule? I I personally don't know. [19:46] >> You don't know because you don't give a [19:47] [ __ ] But we were treated like [ __ ] We [19:49] were treated like garbage during the [19:52] Ottoman rule. [19:52] >> Not only the Jewish people, [19:56] Christians, Armenians, Jews, everyone [19:58] was treated like garbage. [19:59] >> Even Even the Shia was treated bad under [20:01] the Abasi regime. [20:03] >> So, are you seriously angry at melans? [20:05] Are you are you angry at me? You [20:06] frustrated at me for speaking up for my [20:08] people? [20:09] >> No, I'm not angry at you. I'm just [20:11] asking why should the Arab community see [20:14] you as a peacemaker in the region when [20:17] you actually want to expand and take [20:20] land from them? You're actually standing [20:22] there and saying [20:23] >> wait so because they took land,400 years [20:27] ago from us, the native people of the [20:29] Middle East, colonized it and rebranded [20:31] it as new countries, I need to just sit [20:33] idally by and say, "Yeah, okay. Let me [20:36] not fight for my rights to have my own [20:37] country and to establish my own uh [20:40] sovereignty. So you're telling me [20:41] because they came and colonized the [20:43] land, Islamized and Arabized everyone, I [20:46] need to just say, "Okay, it's all good. [20:49] You guys just keep doing that. That's [20:51] all." [20:51] >> So what what is your solution? You keep [20:53] expanding and keep killing people. [20:55] >> Can I ask you a question? Are you okay [20:57] with Israel existing the way it exists [20:59] today? With the borders it has today? [21:02] >> Yeah. With with the border it has today? [21:04] with a [21:05] >> from the river to the sea expanding [21:07] >> from the river to the sea. [21:08] >> No, not from the river to the sea. After [21:10] that [21:11] >> because because it's not an expansion [21:13] Judea and Samaria where Jews come from [21:15] is not now we are talking about [21:18] thousands of years back in history. If [21:20] we keep talking back thousand years it [21:23] was it was Judea until 1960. [21:25] >> No, we're not we're not talking about [21:26] thousands of years ago. Jews have always [21:28] lived in that land. They literally never [21:30] left. You just have [21:32] >> I'm not talking about the Jewish people. [21:34] I'm talking the land. You're saying the [21:36] the country it was Judea until 19. [21:40] >> So what you're telling me I need to just [21:42] be okay with the colonizers colonizing [21:44] it. So when you came in and you called [21:46] it Philistine Philistine I need to be [21:48] okay with a colonizer coming into my [21:50] land and calling it a different name. [21:53] >> Yeah. But the region you're talking now [21:55] about called Judaism or it it was [21:58] actually the land of canance. [22:00] >> No, it was Judea until 1950. Kay. No, [22:03] no, no. That's not true. [22:05] Cananan was the name used it for the [22:07] region sources. Yes. And the Greek [22:10] historians uses the name Palestine. [22:13] >> Kaida. I I understand. We're not going [22:15] back to Cananan right now. What I'm [22:17] trying to tell you is that that piece of [22:19] land was called Judea up until 19. [22:21] >> That piece of land has always been in [22:24] history, the land of Canad and later it [22:27] has been Philistine. [22:29] >> Oh, so it was never called Israel ever. [22:33] I just want to get the sentence out. It [22:35] was called Judea until 1950 and then [22:38] Jordan took over it and renamed it West [22:40] Bank. [22:42] >> Kaida, question Kaida. [22:47] >> Kaida, you believe in Jesus? [22:52] >> Yeah. [22:53] >> Jesus is your God? [22:56] >> No. I said I don't believe in any God. [23:00] >> I thought you said we were Christian. I [23:02] said my origins. Yeah. My family origins [23:04] were a Christian. You believe that Jesus [23:06] existed? [23:07] >> Yeah, I believe he existed. [23:09] >> Where was he born? [23:11] >> Bethlehem. [23:13] >> Where where was that at the time? What [23:14] was it called? [23:16] >> Uh Philistine, the land of cans. [23:20] >> Hey Google, [23:22] what was the name of the land at the [23:24] time of Jesus when he was born? What [23:26] city was he born in? And what was the [23:28] name of the land? [23:35] Jesus was born in the town of Bethlehem. [23:37] At the time of his birth, the region was [23:39] known as Judea, which was a client [23:41] kingdom under the Roman Empire ruled by [23:43] King Herod the Great. [23:45] >> Ladies and gentlemen, Kaida is a Muslim [23:48] in disguise. They do this often, and I [23:51] saw the comments and I kicked her off [23:52] stage cuz I have to go. It's a lovely [23:53] conversation, but I don't know why [23:55] Muslims keep doing this. They keep [23:57] larping as Christians or Jews to try to [24:00] make a point, but their their knowledge [24:01] is so bad and they speak the same [24:03] talking points, the same exact talking [24:06] points as Muslims, as as Islamists. It's [24:09] it's like they don't even try to do an [24:13] element of like they don't even try to [24:15] speak like a Christian. Every single [24:17] Christian knows that Jesus was born in [24:19] Judea. There is not one single Christian [24:21] in this world that believes Jesus was [24:22] born in Palestine or that he was a [24:24] Palestinian. If you were to ask her a [24:25] few times in a bunch of different ways, [24:26] I'd probably be able to admit that she [24:28] would say that Jesus was a Muslim as
