Transcript [00:00] I'm going to be like your daddy in this [00:01] conversation. You don't run away from We [00:04] have to deal with the what comes out of [00:06] our mouth. There's consequences. [00:08] >> All right. All right. [00:09] >> So, daddy is now making sure the [00:11] consequences are felt. You said [00:13] something. Let's stick with it and not [00:14] jump. [00:16] >> You said x 20,000 babies were killed in [00:18] Gaza. Where is the number from? Answer [00:21] the question. [00:22] >> I'll tell you. I don't have any any true [00:24] source. [00:25] >> So, you feel So, you feel like 20,000 [00:28] babies were killed. His [00:33] what about Khaled? [00:35] >> Khaled work. [00:38] >> Yo, what's up? [00:40] >> What's up, Khaled? [00:41] >> Hey, man. Um, so I'm here to debate with [00:44] you cuz I heard you saying some [00:46] outrageous statements. [00:49] Um, anyways, [00:51] um, [00:51] >> can you start with one of my outrageous? [00:54] >> Yeah. Well, obviously uh you denying [00:56] that um you don't really care about [00:59] what's going in Gaza and you support the [01:00] government on what's going on, like [01:03] that's kind of outrageous. [01:06] Um [01:06] >> was I was I wrong with my assessment of [01:08] what Arabs would do to each other? [01:11] >> Well, yeah, but you supporting the [01:13] government of what they're doing to like [01:17] >> Wait, wait, wait, wait. What country are [01:18] you from? I'm I'm I'm like originally [01:21] from Nablas, but Okay. [01:23] >> You're Palestinian? [01:24] >> Yeah, I'm immigrated to to Europe. [01:26] >> Okay. If if the if if Jordan were to [01:30] break into Dafa and do the same thing [01:33] that Hamas did on October 7th, how would [01:35] Palestinians respond to the Jordanians? [01:38] >> Obviously, obviously it wouldn't be like [01:40] a like like u the right thing. Uh but my [01:46] my my question is to you. [01:48] >> Wait, no, no, no, no. Don't run away [01:49] from what I said. We have to establish a [01:51] precedent here. [01:52] >> How would your nation, how would your [01:55] people respond to to respond to the same [01:57] attack on October? [01:59] >> Obviously, obviously a war would happen [02:01] and they would go and kill each other. [02:03] That's that's [02:04] >> Would hundreds of thousands of [02:06] Jordanians be dead? [02:08] >> Obviously. Obviously. I I understand. [02:09] But I wouldn't I wouldn't go out. [02:11] >> Would wait. Would children and women be [02:13] dead? [02:13] >> Yeah. So, yeah, I I understand. [02:16] >> Would homes be bombed in a man in Would [02:19] homes be bombed in? Would would would [02:22] would land be taken? Would the border be [02:25] broken? Would there be checkpoints? [02:28] Would you do all of the same exact [02:30] things that Israel has done? [02:33] >> All right. So, basically, um I I I [02:36] understand what you're trying to say, [02:37] but it doesn't doesn't uh prove the like [02:41] my point is you support you support. [02:45] One second. One second, bro. One second, [02:47] bro. I'm I'm with you. I I'm going to [02:49] answer your questions. Just one second. [02:53] I don't know. He He left. Did he get a [02:55] call? I feel like he got a call in the [02:57] >> No, he's out. Salid, when you're out of [02:59] the We can't hear you. [03:00] >> Okay. So, [03:01] >> yeah, [03:02] >> one second before before we continue on [03:04] your point. It's important cuz I want to [03:06] establish [03:07] just an element of truth here. I don't I [03:09] don't want to like gaslight each other. [03:12] Would would your people do the same [03:15] exact things that Israel has done in [03:17] response to October 7th? [03:22] >> I I assume no. It wouldn't be like like [03:26] it it would be the same to to to a [03:28] certain extent, but it wouldn't be like [03:31] humanity is is required in that sense, [03:34] right? You would you would you tell the [03:36] people uh to like to leave the place or [03:39] to evate like in that sense? So you tell [03:43] the women the children to leave the [03:45] place and and [03:46] >> did that did Israel do that? [03:50] >> Then tell me why why was there like [03:51] thousands? [03:52] >> Did Israel do that? [03:55] >> I go I don't think so cuz [03:58] one second. One second. [03:59] >> Hey Google. [04:02] Does Israel frequently warn before [04:04] bombing in Gaza? [04:10] This is Google. We take the answer. [04:12] >> The Israeli military often issues [04:14] advanced warnings through methods like [04:16] phone calls, text messages, dropped [04:18] leaflets, and non-exlosive warning [04:20] strikes known as roof knocks. However, [04:23] >> All right. Okay. So, so based on that, [04:26] >> did Israel warn? Yes or no? [04:29] >> All right. based on your uh source. [04:32] >> Not based on my source. This is based on [04:34] Google. You have a different source you [04:36] want to ask something else that you [04:38] trust. I have five AIs on my phone. I [04:41] can ask any of them. [04:42] >> Then tell me why were there a lot of [04:45] >> Khaled? One second. [04:47] >> Yeah. [04:47] >> Does Israel warn before they bomb? Yes [04:50] or no? [04:52] >> Yes and no. Like wait, wait, wait. [04:56] >> Uhhuh. Would [04:58] Arabs warn before bombing? Yes or no? [05:05] >> Define by Arabs like in what sense? [05:07] >> Any Arab, any Muslim engaging in war? [05:10] Give me one example of war. [05:12] >> Give me Give me an example. [05:13] >> Wait, one second. Show me proof of one [05:17] Arab or one Muslim army army ever in [05:21] history of warfare doing what Israel [05:24] does. Give me an example. Give me a war. [05:25] Show me one proof. Give me a war. Give [05:26] me a war and I can give you a war. [05:28] >> Annie, you choose. Give me one war. [05:30] >> One conflict that Arabs are engaged in [05:33] currently. [05:33] >> The six day war. Let's say this the six [05:35] day war. Was was there like any u any uh [05:39] like let's say [05:41] warnings from both sides. There were [05:43] never warning from both sides. [05:45] >> Khaled. [05:47] Give me any war or any conflict that [05:50] Arabs and Muslims are currently engaged [05:53] in or have been engaged in the past [05:56] where they ever warned before they [05:59] bombed. One example is all I need. Just [06:01] one and I'll shut the [06:04] >> Tell from your side as well. Tell me [06:08] >> I'm asking you a question. Answer it. [06:12] >> I got no clue. I won't I won't say [06:14] >> it's because it doesn't exist. It's [06:16] because it does not exist. [06:18] >> Arabs and Muslims do not warn anyone or [06:23] any civilians before they bomb ever. [06:26] >> Not in Sudan, not in Somalia, not in [06:29] Saudi Arabia, not in Yemen, not in the [06:32] UAE, not in Lebanon, not in Syria. You [06:35] know why? Because warning your enemy [06:38] before you bomb is foolish. It is a [06:41] stupid tactic and it hurts your [06:43] achievements in the army. It hurts you [06:46] from actually fighting your enemy. What [06:48] Israel does actually hurts its army. It [06:52] hurts its soldiers and it hurts its [06:54] civilians by caring for Palestinian [06:57] lives. Israel literally risks the lives [07:00] of its soldiers to warn Palestinians. [07:03] And a vast majority of Palestinians [07:05] unfortunately still choose to die as a [07:09] shahid rather than take Israel's [07:11] warning. [07:11] >> All right, I've got one question for you [07:13] now that we No, no, no. Before you've [07:14] got a question, I just want to establish [07:16] some truths before you continue. Okay? [07:18] And I will let you speak. [07:21] >> You as Arabs would do the same thing [07:23] that Israel does. And you as Arabs, [07:26] okay, would not warn anybody. That's [07:30] those are two things that we just [07:31] established in this truth. Now, what is [07:33] your question? [07:34] >> All right. My question is then tell me [07:36] what's the reasoning of the thousands of [07:38] babies, women, and journalists that were [07:40] killed in Gaza. What's [07:41] >> How many babies, women's and journalists [07:43] have died? [07:44] >> Oh, a lot. I would say thousands. [07:46] >> How many? [07:47] >> Thousands. 20 thousands, 40,000s. [07:49] >> Where are you getting that number from? [07:51] Where's that number coming from? [07:52] >> From Al Jazzer from every every [07:54] >> But alazer is not on the ground in Gaza. [07:56] So where are you getting that number [07:57] from? [07:58] >> No. The No. What are you saying? The [08:00] whole journalists [08:02] >> there's not one single foreign [08:04] journalist on the ground in Gaza. [08:06] There's only one place where you can get [08:08] a number of the civilians dead in Gaza. [08:10] Where are you getting that number from? [08:13] >> All right. Based on your source, tell me [08:15] how many how many babies are [08:18] >> I don't hear from your side. [08:19] >> Don't twist it on me. Where are you [08:21] getting your number from? [08:22] >> From all over the place. Instagram. [08:25] Alazer. [08:25] >> One source. One source on the ground in [08:28] Gaza that's giving you the number. Where [08:29] is it from? [08:30] >> I I use Al Jazzer based on what? [08:32] >> Alazer not on the ground. Al Jazzer is [08:34] reporting from Qatar, not from not from [08:36] Gaza. [08:37] >> All right. What is the source on the [08:39] ground? [08:39] >> I told you it's Alazer and based on [08:41] Instagram. [08:41] >> Alzer is not on the ground in Gaza. [08:43] >> All right. Instagram. Instagram from the [08:45] reals that pop on. [08:46] >> Instagram is not a source. Khaled [08:47] >> Khaled. It's called a primary source. [08:49] All of these publications, they all [08:52] published. They say we got our numbers [08:54] from bloop. [08:56] >> Fill in the bloop bloop. [08:57] >> Yeah. Where's my bloop bloop? Thank you. [09:00] Thank you. [09:01] >> Tal tal. My question for you is [09:03] >> Khaled. No, no, no, no. Khaled, Khaled. [09:04] >> Okay, okay, okay. Let's say I don't have [09:05] I don't have any hab [09:08] and I don't mean to disparrage you with [09:10] how I say this. I'm going to be like [09:11] your daddy in this conversation. You [09:13] don't run away from We have to deal with [09:16] the what comes out of our mouth. There's [09:18] consequences. [09:19] >> All right. All right. [09:20] >> So, daddy is now making sure the [09:22] consequences are felt. You said [09:24] something. Let's stick with it and not [09:25] jump around. [09:27] >> You said x 20,000 babies were killing. [09:30] Where is the number from? Answer the [09:32] question. [09:33] >> I'll tell you. I don't have any any true [09:35] source. [09:36] >> So you feel So you feel like 20,000 [09:38] babies were killed. [09:40] >> Well, yeah, it makes sense cuz [09:42] >> Okay. Well, that's I'm sorry, but that's [09:44] gay. You can't feel that people are [09:47] killed. You have to have a source of [09:50] where people are dying from. Where are [09:52] you getting the number from? [09:54] >> All right. Let's say I don't have any [09:56] source. Okay. You you are [09:58] >> you don't have any source. You can't [10:00] engage with me in a debate in good [10:01] faith. [10:02] >> All right. All right. Then I'm sorry for [10:03] getting this on. Then based on your [10:05] resources, how many babies based on the [10:08] Israeli media? How many babies? [10:09] >> I don't have a source because there is [10:10] no source. [10:12] >> So what number would you assume is the [10:14] right number? [10:15] >> You can't assume there. There's no way [10:17] to assume. [10:19] >> Oh, come on, man. Like there has to be [10:21] >> there has to be like an estimate like [10:23] like based based on the Jews that were [10:24] killed during [10:25] >> How are you going to assume? Is it a [10:27] feeling? Is it a vibe? Are you going to [10:28] vibe how many babies were killed? [10:30] >> So, so, so Tal, Tal, again, if you go [10:32] back to World War II, you would tell [10:34] that there were like a number of Jews [10:37] that were killed. It it ranges from [10:38] 500,000 to 2 million Jews. There's an [10:41] estimate for that. So, I'm telling you, [10:42] give me your estimate like based on [10:44] >> I don't I don't have an estimate. It's [10:46] impossible to tell in Gaza. But we we [10:48] can we can we can agree that like [10:50] >> you know how I know it's impossible to [10:51] tell because the one who who [10:54] orchestrated the October 7th attacks was [10:56] on the list of registered children that [10:59] were killed on on in this war. [11:01] >> All right. Okay. [11:02] >> So that's why you can't you don't have a [11:04] reliable source. [11:05] >> All right. Let's switch topics. I have [11:06] another thing to say and this [11:08] >> I just I want you to confidently say [11:10] you're conceding that you don't know how [11:12] many people have been killed. [11:13] >> It's not like I'm conceding but I can [11:15] say an estimate. It's so obvious t like [11:17] >> where's your estimate coming from [11:19] >> tal you're you're telling me 2 million 2 [11:21] million [11:23] are [11:23] >> trapped it should it should this should [11:25] be an answer that should take you one [11:27] second to answer where is your source [11:29] coming from [11:30] >> let's say it's one baby that was killed [11:32] it's still not humane what what is [11:34] really [11:34] >> okay but if it's one baby that was [11:36] killed you know how many babies died [11:37] today in Sudan just today [11:39] >> but [11:40] >> Muslim killing another Muslim why are [11:42] you talking about Sudan [11:44] >> okay then what let's talk about what [11:45] happened before October 7th, right? As [11:47] well, like [11:48] >> when when do you want to start history? [11:50] Do you choose? [11:52] >> Since like [11:54] since World War II like was like settled [11:58] and everything was like going on the [12:01] when when the Jews first uh came to the [12:03] Middle East. Uh [12:04] >> when did the Jews first come to the [12:05] Middle East? [12:06] >> The European Jews, the the big European [12:08] Jews. I'm not a European Jew. [12:10] >> Okay, but you're still still your [12:11] people. [12:12] >> You have a gripe with European Jews, [12:13] talk to European Jews. I'm an Arab Jew. [12:15] Arabs kicked us out of our homes before [12:17] the state of Israel. Arabs mass murdered [12:19] us, ethnically cleansed us. Muslims did [12:22] that to us. [12:23] >> Talk about not Ashkenazis, not [12:25] Europeans. You're talking to an Arab Jew [12:27] just like you. Now, talk to me about [12:29] what you guys did to us, please, if you [12:31] can explain. [12:31] >> Talk about the Palestinians Jews that [12:33] were living peacefully with the [12:34] Christian Jew with the Christian. [12:35] >> Yeah. When what? Wait, no. No. Give me [12:37] the years. What years did the [12:38] Palestinian Jews live peacefully? Uh, [12:40] >> tell me. Uh, when [12:42] >> Be specific. [12:43] >> Yeah. when the mandate of Palestine [12:45] under the [12:46] >> give me specific dates when did they [12:47] live in peace exactly [12:50] >> again uh it's under the the mandate of [12:53] Palestine you [12:53] >> give me a specific date [12:55] >> all right let's say let's say before [12:58] >> before before uh [13:01] before the Jews settled in like before [13:02] 1946 I would I would assume around 1948 [13:06] >> 1948 yeah [13:07] >> yeah so you know you know what was going [13:09] on in 1929 [13:11] >> 1920 under the Osman uh uh empire or [13:15] >> yeah when we were living in peace [13:17] >> 1929 was British mandate [13:21] >> you know what was going on in 1929 [13:22] Khaled when we were living in peace [13:24] >> okay in Jerusalem we're talking about [13:26] Jerusalem right not [13:27] >> Jerusalem safada yafa [13:30] >> okay okay you know what was going on [13:32] during those years [13:33] >> tell me [13:34] >> you guys massacred us [13:38] >> hundreds of us when we were living in [13:40] peace and you know that was the third [13:42] set of massacres [13:43] It that was under the British but it [13:45] also happened at the end of the 1800s [13:48] and in the early in the early 1800s that [13:50] was just the first round of massacres or [13:52] the sorry the third round of mass [13:54] >> Jerusalem in Jerusalem and like [13:57] >> Jerusalem [13:58] >> Safada [14:00] al Khal and Yafa [14:04] >> it's called the massacres of Sephid [14:07] Hebrron Jerusalem and Yafa it's [14:10] literally called the massacres of and it [14:11] was the third said, "And by the way, [14:13] when we lived in peace during that [14:16] wonderful time where we lived in peace, [14:17] do you know what Mazjid Ibrahimi is? [14:19] Have you ever heard of the Mazjid [14:20] Ibrahimi?" [14:21] >> It's the compound of uh Isn't it the [14:24] compound of Ala? [14:26] >> No. Mazjid Ibrahim is in Alhal in the [14:28] West Bank in Judea and Samaria. It's [14:31] where uh it's where uh the where Ibraim [14:34] and his hak and all the children and the [14:37] wives are buried. It's now it's a [14:39] masjid. You know, when we lived in peace [14:42] for 750 years, Muslims blocked us from [14:46] being able to pray inside of the place. [14:48] We had to pray on a little staircase [14:50] outside while we lived in peace for 750 [14:54] years. You know that that's the second [14:57] the second holiest site in Judaism. [14:59] >> The first holiest site you guys built a [15:02] mosque and shrine on top of and barred [15:04] us from praying altogether. But the [15:07] second the second holiest site while we [15:09] lived in peace when it was peaceful you [15:13] guys barred us from praying in for 750 [15:16] years before the Ottomans after the [15:19] Ottomans during the Ottomans. [15:21] >> But isn't this what what's going on [15:22] right now? Like the people of Nablas the [15:24] people of Khaled Khaled Khalid. No no no [15:27] don't do don't do with me what about [15:29] Isism? You guys abused Jews for 1,400 [15:33] years. You kicked us out of our homes. [15:35] You massacred us. You treated us as [15:38] demies. My grandparents lived and died [15:40] as demies paying Jiza. [15:42] >> That's in Iraq. That's in Iraq. [15:44] >> They still got their homes kicked out of [15:46] kicked out of their home. [15:47] >> That was in Iraq. That was Ye [15:51] was [15:54] saying all of these happened in Iraq and [15:56] in Egypt and Yemen. It never happened in [15:58] Palestine. Like the killing. [15:59] >> Of course it happened in Palestine. What [16:00] are you talking about? Of course it [16:02] happened in Palestine. Well, you wait. [16:04] Do you think Jews under the Ottoman [16:05] Empire were not demies? They weren't [16:07] paying a Jizian protection. [16:08] >> Okay. Okay. Protection. But they were [16:10] not. [16:10] >> And I literally I literally gave you an [16:12] example of what was happening under it [16:15] started before the Ottomans, continued [16:17] during the Ottomans, and still happened [16:19] after the Ottomans. We only got to start [16:21] praying in Mazjid in Mazjid Ibrahimi in [16:24] 1967 [16:26] when we liberated it. Only once we [16:29] fought a war and captured it from Jordan [16:32] were we allowed to start praying in our [16:34] second holiest sight. [16:36] >> That's during the time that's when we [16:37] lived in peace. Yahib, don't give me [16:40] that [ __ ] [16:41] >> We did not live in peace. You guys [16:42] abused us for 1,400 years. [16:46] >> Are we allowed there today? [16:48] >> Of course we're allowed there today [16:49] because Israel controls it. The building [16:51] is split in two because Palestinians are [16:54] so intolerant of Jews being able to pray [16:56] at their holy sites that they literally [16:58] have to have a Muslim side and a Jewish [17:00] side. And the Muslims of course have the [17:02] bigger side, the bigger side of they [17:05] have the bigger side of the city and the [17:06] bigger side of the mosque. [17:07] >> All right. I' I've got another question. [17:09] You support [17:11] No, no, no. There's no another question. [17:12] You need to answer the stuff that I [17:14] said. [17:16] I I won't I won't debate with you cuz [17:18] it's going to kill like the the [17:20] >> because you can't answer those [17:21] questions. You're going to run away from [17:23] what I said. [17:23] >> It's not like I can't answer them. It's [17:25] just [17:26] >> answer them. Take accountability [17:28] for what I'm saying. [17:31] >> Well, why why during the time that we [17:34] lived in peace did you guys block us [17:36] from praying at our holiest site for 750 [17:38] years? Give me one reason give me a [17:40] reasonable answer to that. Why did that [17:42] happen? [17:42] >> I got no clue. I don't know what's I [17:44] don't know if your source is right. I [17:45] don't know cuz based on [17:46] >> No, so give me an answer for it. Why [17:48] would they do that? [17:49] >> There has to be a reason. I don't I got [17:51] no clue. [17:51] >> There has to be a reason, right? There [17:52] has to be a reason, right? [17:54] >> Yeah. But but uh [17:55] >> So there has to be a reason. [17:59] If there has to be a reason that you [18:01] block Jews from praying for their [18:02] holiest sight for 750 years, listen very [18:06] clearly. There has to be a really good [18:08] reason why Israel exists, why [18:10] Palestinians live the way that they do, [18:12] why so many children and women have been [18:13] killed in Gaza, why so many people in [18:15] Gaza have been killed, why Gaza looks [18:17] away, there has to be a really good [18:18] [ __ ] reason. And remember that [18:20] lesson, if that's your answer, isn't [18:22] this 750 years of oppression in a mosque [18:25] that you won't let us pray in our [18:27] holiest sight? If that's your answer is [18:29] there has to be a reason, then habibi [18:31] life, that's karma. There's got to be a [18:33] reason for everything. Don't ask me [18:35] anything about Gaza. Fix what you guys [18:37] did first [18:38] >> for what you did to the Jews of the [18:39] Middle East. Then we can talk about [18:41] Gaza. No problem. [18:42] >> Thank you so much. Khaled Tal has a very [18:44] long line and you said there's no debate [18:46] here. So, we appreciate you coming up. [18:48] >> Thank you. [18:49] >> God bless you, Khaled. [18:51] >> Um, [18:53] >> yeah, you have a lot more people here [18:54] now. [18:55] >> That was a good That was very good. I [18:56] might might post that one on YouTube as
