Transcript [00:00] Hey everyone. So, in this video, we're [00:01] going to talk about the Gaza Strip. And [00:05] specifically, I'm just going to tell you [00:06] the punchline up front. [00:09] Uh, I'm going to show you a couple of [00:10] clips. One of them is of Jared Kushner [00:12] taking uh a question in Kiev the other [00:16] day after meeting with Zilinski. He took [00:19] some questions and he was asked a [00:20] question about Gaza. Play a short clip [00:22] of that. And then we're going to play a [00:24] few clips from remarks made by Nikolai [00:28] Maladinov who's got some fancy title [00:30] like the high commissioner for Gaza. [00:34] He's the one who's supposed to implement [00:35] the whole board of peace thing. He's the [00:36] head of that whole enterprise and he was [00:39] in Abu Dhabi. He was asked a few [00:41] questions on stage. He gave remarks [00:44] about Gaza. [00:46] And what I want to show you through the [00:49] remarks [00:51] is that [00:53] this approach that the quote unquote [00:56] peacemakers [00:57] take, the camp that advocates for [01:01] negotiations [01:02] and coming to some accommodations and [01:05] and international bodies coming in and [01:09] helping out and let's tamp things down [01:11] and let's deescalate the situation and [01:13] reach some sort of agreement. Those [01:16] are actually [01:18] they for some reason have the title of [01:21] the peace camp, but they're not. They're [01:25] not the peace camp. They're actually the [01:27] forever war camp. They're the ones who [01:30] perpetuate conflicts forever because of [01:34] their [01:36] I wouldn't even call it naivee because [01:38] they know better. They for sure know. [01:40] They see the situation up close and [01:41] personal. So it's not exactly naive. [01:44] It's not even I'm not even sure [01:45] confusion is the right word. I think [01:48] they are intentionally [01:51] willfully blind to the situation. They [01:53] insist on the situation being not what [01:56] it is. They're an intentional denial of [01:59] it. [02:01] And that those who want to actually [02:04] drive towards victory over our enemies, [02:06] us crazy ones who want actual defeat of [02:09] evil, we're the actual peace camp. We're [02:12] the ones who actually want these [02:14] conflicts to end. Anyway, let's get to [02:17] it. We'll look at these clips. We'll [02:18] start with this short clip from Jared [02:22] Kushner. Here is Jared Kushner. And [02:26] >> the uh So, first of all, you know, I [02:28] think these are some of the hardest [02:30] problem sets in the world, you know, and [02:32] I think that um you have to try and you [02:34] have to bring to it. Um, obviously, uh, [02:37] Steve and I bring different approaches [02:38] to these things, but we work very well [02:40] together as partners, but we're not [02:42] bringing our approaches. We're really [02:43] representing President Trump, and we're [02:45] doing it the way that he wants to see [02:46] these things done. And working uh, with [02:48] President Trump, um, you know, in the [02:49] first term, obviously, we achieved a lot [02:51] of unthinkable things, whether it was [02:53] achieving the Abraham Accords, which [02:55] nobody thought was possible. We achieved [02:57] um, the US MCA, the biggest trade deal [02:59] in history, made a great deal with [03:01] China, and the list just goes on and on. [03:03] We just celebrated the World Cup in [03:04] America. That was a deal that I led on [03:06] President Trump's behalf uh to win for [03:08] America. Uh the same thing with the [03:09] Olympics that'll be coming up. So, you [03:11] know, you have to take on hard things. [03:13] You mentioned Gaza. Uh right now, you [03:15] know, a year ago that war was going on. [03:17] There were 20 live hostages there and um [03:20] 28 bodies of dead hostages there and a [03:22] war that nobody thought was going to was [03:24] going to be achieved as well. Uh it took [03:27] a long time. You know, Steve and I [03:28] worked very hard on that for a while and [03:30] then when we found the opening, we're [03:32] able to use the work that we've been [03:33] that we've been able to do both building [03:35] the relationships and in creating uh [03:37] different frameworks for how to achieve [03:39] that and then we were able to take [03:40] advantage a conclusion which really [03:43] ended it. Uh the thing the work that [03:45] we've done since then uh which again is [03:47] um you know Gaza has not worked for a [03:49] very very long time. It was basically [03:50] built by NOS's and terrorists uh and [03:52] it's been a dystopian place for a long [03:54] time and so we've taken our time. We've [03:56] built an incredible team again under [03:57] President Trump's leadership and the [03:59] Board of Peace. Uh now we have a plan to [04:01] go forward. Uh we've got a UN resolution [04:03] that that put forward uh progress for [04:05] that. And um you know there's a new [04:07] government, a Palestinian technocratic [04:09] government that's neither the PA nor [04:10] Hamas uh that's built a plan to go [04:12] forward. Uh you can't go in if there's [04:15] guns, right? You can't send a government [04:16] in to a place. By the way, we're now [04:18] starting to understand the scope of the [04:19] militarization of Gaza. It is beyond [04:21] your comprehension. And so [04:23] demilitarizing it is not going to be [04:24] easy. Uh we worked with Hamas for over [04:26] four months. Um you know, you talk [04:28] about, you know, you interesting people [04:30] to be working with and they signed an [04:32] agreement saying they were going to [04:33] demilitarize. We're working through some [04:35] political issues in Israel. I think we [04:37] agree with them on the end state. They [04:38] just have a crazy election and that [04:40] makes them a little um irrational in [04:44] certain regards, but we're very [04:45] determined and we're working through uh [04:47] these things. We've also over the last [04:48] year surged more humanitarian aid into [04:51] uh the former war zone. I mean now in [04:53] Gaza, we changed the way the aid was [04:55] done there. Uh before uh I mean they [04:57] spend three times uh the amount per [04:59] person uh in Gaza at the UN that they [05:01] did in Syria for aid. Why? It's because [05:03] it's become this whole industrial [05:04] complex of aid and a lot of it was being [05:06] stolen to fund a terrorist organization. [05:08] So we changed the way the aid was done. [05:10] Uh we flooded aid into Gaza and now it [05:12] has one of the lowest malnutrition rates [05:14] in the world. And so we have a plan to [05:15] rebuild it. These things take time. [05:17] These are some of the hardest conflicts. [05:18] And so the tone of your question was a [05:20] little bit like why haven't you done? [05:22] >> Okay. So now he attacks the questioner [05:24] for being a little too aggressive with [05:26] his questioning. Let me just unpack a [05:28] few of the things that he said before we [05:30] move on here. Um so first of all we've [05:35] been working with Hamas for a while. you [05:36] know, interesting people there. Yeah. [05:41] And [05:42] and in the same breath, he he talks [05:44] about how the militar militarization of [05:47] Gaza is beyond anything you can imagine. [05:49] And I've heard this from people who've [05:50] been there, soldiers who've been there, [05:52] others that literally in every single [05:55] building, and every single residential [05:56] home. There were weapons stores. The [05:59] entire place was militarized for for the [06:02] use of terrorism. The Gaza Strip is not [06:04] that big. There were hundreds and [06:05] hundreds of miles of terror tunnels. The [06:08] whole place is one big terrorism [06:11] military complex. [06:14] But to say, you know, we're working with [06:16] Hamas and they signed an agreement to [06:18] disarm and we're also talking to the [06:20] Israelis and they have an election. So, [06:22] they're being a little bit irrational. [06:25] Here is the crux of the problem and this [06:26] is what this whole video is about. [06:29] in the language, in the way he's talking [06:31] about, even though he is acknowledging [06:33] how bad kamas is in certain ways. Oh, [06:36] look, look at how militarized it was. [06:37] It's been a dystopian place for a long [06:39] time. [06:41] The core of the problem is [06:44] he doesn't say we need to defeat them. [06:49] You see, the the only way a an a society [06:53] that has been brainwashed into evil [06:57] can be broken of that and it's it's [07:00] painful and it's bloody and it's messy [07:03] is for them to experience the abject [07:05] defeat of that ideology for it to be [07:08] crushed in an unequivocal way. We know [07:11] that that's the only way it works. [07:14] But we don't do that anymore. Ever since [07:16] World War II, it's not very polite to go [07:19] ahead and actually have victory over [07:21] evil. So, we just leave every evil uh uh [07:25] every evil actor intact. And we say, [07:28] "Oh, you know, we're going to come to [07:30] some accommodation with them. They [07:31] signed an agreement to disarm and we're [07:33] working through it. We're working [07:35] through it." And there was like three [07:37] times as much aid going into Gaza per [07:40] person and to Syria. Uh be and so much [07:43] of it was being stolen. But, you know, [07:44] we're working through these things with [07:46] Hamas and we're going to And now we have [07:47] a technocratic government that isn't [07:49] Hamas and it isn't the PA. So, they're [07:51] obviously good guys. Yeah. So, why is it [07:54] that the anti-Chas militias in Gaza [07:58] according to your board of peace are not [08:01] allowed to be part of the police force? [08:04] Why? They're anti-Camas. Kamas are the [08:07] bad guys, right? I thought they were. [08:09] You see, [08:11] this is what I meant in my opening to [08:12] this video. [08:14] pretending that evil is not evil. [08:16] Pretending [08:18] that you can come to some sort of [08:20] accommodation, you can sign an agreement [08:21] with them and you can somehow coax them [08:24] into demilitarization or that it can be [08:26] done in a way that isn't really bloody. [08:30] Thinking that you can do that enables [08:33] the evil to continue. And if you could [08:36] get to a post kamas Gaza and the people [08:40] have not felt completely defeated, I [08:43] know that's harsh, but if they don't [08:45] feel completely defeated, they aren't [08:46] going to change one iota of their [08:49] genocidal ideology of their desire to [08:52] murder every single Jew. That's the [08:56] problem with this whole thing. Let's [08:57] move on to the next clip. And this is [09:00] Nikolai Maladonov, the uh whatever his [09:05] ridiculous title is. [09:09] >> All right. So, um I know that you know [09:11] there's great frustration um in the [09:13] public um and in with people that we [09:15] talk to on all sides of the slowness of [09:17] this process. Um but let's just for a [09:20] second put things in perspective that [09:22] this conflict has been going on for [09:24] quite a long time. It has a very very [09:26] complicated history both politically, [09:28] emotionally and and in terms of security [09:29] for both peoples. Um and trying to [09:31] untangle the Gordian knots is not an [09:33] easy easy task. We can't just cut [09:34] through it. We have to literally [09:36] untangle it string by string. And this [09:37] is what we're doing right now. Hopefully [09:39] we will see some uh uh some positive [09:41] moves in the coming um in the coming [09:43] weeks um uh uh because I think that is [09:46] very very much needed. People in Gaza [09:47] live in terrible conditions. They cannot [09:49] continue to uh to face another winter [09:52] with this with the situation that they [09:53] have right now. You're right about those [09:55] who are critical because of the urgency [09:58] of the situation especially for [09:59] Palestinians and Gaza and you as you [10:01] rightly said winter is coming but also [10:03] it's another school year that's starting [10:04] with children unable to go to schools [10:05] and civilians are still being killed but [10:08] given the complexity and the time [10:10] element and given that we have elections [10:12] in Israel coming up in the near term [10:15] what do you need from international [10:17] community from those who can put [10:19] pressure on either side to actually get [10:21] us to move a little quicker? Well, [10:23] leaving the complexities aside for a [10:25] second, let's zoom out a little bit, um, [10:28] and see what are really the options, um, [10:29] and what I perhaps need is both for the [10:31] international community and for [10:33] political leadership in Israel and [10:35] elsewhere around the world to realize [10:37] that we actually have only three options [10:39] going forward. Uh, one option is [10:42] continue the policy of today, which is, [10:45] you know, allow Hamas to continue [10:46] governing in parts at least of Gaza. um [10:49] uh continue these constant military [10:51] operations that uh um you know target [10:55] militants and things like that that cost [10:56] civilian lives, limitations on dual use [10:59] materials, all of the things that we've [11:00] seen for uh the last so many years. Um [11:03] and clearly if this policy continues [11:05] going forward um it will lead to very [11:09] quickly another generation in Gaza [11:11] growing up with every reason to be [11:13] radicalized, angry, um and the cost of [11:15] that we saw on October 7th. Uh certainly [11:18] that is not an option that I or anybody [11:19] on my team at the Port of Peace and [11:21] everybody who's working on this file [11:22] wants to see continued. But this is a [11:24] danger that we've been warning of since [11:26] day one. There's a second option. Um and [11:28] that option is that um Israel continues [11:31] its military operations in Gaza. Um [11:34] unfortunately for all sides this would [11:36] come at a huge human cost. Palestinians, [11:39] Israelis, reputational cost, financial [11:41] cost. Um, and it would certainly exclude [11:44] anyone in the Gulf, be that the UAE, [11:46] Qatar, Saudi Arabia, anyone else [11:49] financing any reconstruction in Gaza. [11:51] Um, and would put us in a situation in [11:53] which Israel would have to reoccupy Gaza [11:55] and take full responsibility for [11:57] everything that follows from that. Now, [11:59] speaking to to many in Israel, I've [12:00] hardly heard anyone who wants to go down [12:02] that road and and certainly I've heard [12:04] no Palestinian who wants to go down that [12:05] road. And the third option which we have [12:07] on the table is what the the board of [12:08] peace is putting um has put together in [12:11] terms of the peace plan and the road [12:12] map. Um and that requires um disarmament [12:15] by agreement um withdrawal by agreement, [12:18] reconstruction uh starting with early [12:20] recovery moving uh step by step into [12:23] full reconstruction with support from [12:24] the international community from uh the [12:27] countries in the region from the Gulf. [12:28] uh we have excellent uh uh discussions [12:30] and commitments from uh from from this [12:32] part of the world uh but not only from [12:34] here from Europe uh from the United [12:36] States from others. Um making sure that [12:38] we realize this plan which as difficult [12:40] as it is is perhaps the only one that [12:43] makes sense in stepping back from the [12:45] brink of of of the conflict. [12:48] [sighs] [12:49] >> Oh boy, there's so much there. There is [12:51] so much there. I don't even know where [12:55] to start with this guy. [12:57] Look, um, [13:01] Kamas's commitments. He talks about [13:03] Kamas's commitments. Now, think about [13:05] that. This is an organization whose [13:08] founding charter calls for the murder of [13:11] every single Jew on Earth. [13:14] And yes, the people in Galaza are facing [13:18] another winter of suffering. Why are [13:21] they living in such terrible conditions? [13:25] Why? [13:27] Because of kamas and because they [13:30] embraced kamas. Like the there is a lack [13:34] of [13:37] it's not ability. They have the ability. [13:39] It's a lack of [13:41] uh uh it [13:44] of willingness to simply face the [13:47] reality of who these people are and what [13:50] they believe and what it takes to [13:52] actually change things. So when he says [13:56] that, you know, the possibility of [13:58] Israel continuing its military [13:59] operations is just untenable, there's [14:01] this reputational damage [14:04] and it'll mean that the Gulf States [14:05] won't want to invest in the [14:07] reconstruction of Gaza. [14:10] And you know it's you can't go and and [14:12] who Israel doesn't want to reoccupy [14:14] Gaza. No one I spoke to in Israel wants [14:17] to do that. I don't know who he spoke [14:19] to. [14:22] Look, [14:25] the only way I'm going to say it again, [14:29] the only way to reach a peaceful end of [14:33] this [14:34] is to deliver a defeat to the evil [14:38] people. He says he says like you know he [14:40] his third option which is of course the [14:41] option that we have to go with is this [14:43] 15-point road map which is which [14:46] involves he just said disarmament by [14:49] agreement. [14:51] Disarmament by agreement. [14:54] Are you serious? [14:57] Disarmament by agreement. It's again [15:00] it's not even naive. [15:05] It's not even naive. And and when he [15:08] says there that, you know, if kamas [15:10] continues to govern, we're going to get [15:11] another generation that are just angry [15:13] and are radicalized. This is another one [15:16] of these axioms of the belief system of [15:18] these people. One of their axioms is [15:20] that the reason that there's terrorism [15:23] is because people are poor [15:26] and radicalized. [15:28] That's what they believe. That's why [15:30] there's terrorism. [15:32] Not because they are uh Sunni jihadist [15:35] Muslims or Shiite jihadist Muslims, but [15:38] in in in in Gaza they're Sunni for the [15:41] most part. That's what Hamas is, their [15:43] Muslim Brotherhood. [15:45] He never once talks about the ideology [15:48] of Kamas as a problem. [15:50] It's as though there's just like this [15:52] this military situation and if if each [15:55] side could just deescalate and then [15:56] kamas will lay down their weapons and [15:58] then we can move on and everyone could [15:59] have a prosperous life. It doesn't even [16:01] begin. It doesn't even scratch the [16:03] surface of how to solve this problem. [16:07] And the only way to solve it is Israel [16:10] continuing its offensive, punishing [16:13] Hamas more and more and more, ultimately [16:16] bringing it to its knees. [16:18] The reason [16:20] that more and more gazins [16:23] say in polls that they don't want armed [16:26] struggle anymore, but they want [16:27] negotiations, it's not because they [16:29] become peaceful. It's because they are [16:31] tasting defeat, because they are [16:33] realizing that armed struggle is [16:35] bringing more and more hardship on them. [16:38] And I know that it's a really tough pill [16:40] to swallow, [16:42] but the only way to change people's [16:44] minds is for them to suffer. They have [16:47] to feel the bitter bitter uh [16:51] consequences of embracing this ideology [16:53] and cheering on Hamas for kidnapping and [16:57] raping and murdering Jews and this this [17:01] entire way that they've been raised to [17:02] think. They have to taste how painful [17:05] the results of that are. They have to [17:06] feel regret for thinking that way and [17:10] feeling that way. It's the only way [17:11] their ide how else do you change their [17:13] ideology? [17:15] And if you don't think you can change [17:16] their ideology, what are you even doing? [17:20] What are you even doing? You're [17:21] negotiating with them. Why? [17:25] Why? Let's again there's two op. He [17:28] says, "Oh, there's three options here. [17:30] Let me give you two options here. You [17:32] can either not do anything to change the [17:35] way these people think or you can do [17:38] something to change the way these people [17:39] think. Neither one of those is very [17:42] pleasant. Not changing the way they're [17:44] think they think means that you're going [17:46] to have more kamas and if it's not [17:49] called kamas it'll be called something [17:50] else. But if you leave a population [17:52] there that still wants to murder Jews as [17:55] its highest aspiration and that is what [17:58] they profess [18:00] as people. That is what they teach in [18:02] their schools. Are if you're going to [18:04] leave that intact and not punish it and [18:08] not do something to change it to cause [18:12] regret [18:14] in the hearts and minds of these people [18:16] and make them question is this the right [18:18] way to think. The only way to do that is [18:20] really brutal. But you know what? Not [18:23] doing that is also brutal. [18:26] If you don't if if you don't drive to [18:29] victory, you are perpetuating the [18:32] conflict. Let me say that again. The [18:34] desire by these people to reach some [18:37] sort of negotiated settlement that isn't [18:39] because it's less bloody. We don't want [18:41] all the fighting. Let's figure out a way [18:42] to get kamas. Let's say you got kamas to [18:44] somehow consent to something. What does [18:47] that even mean? [18:50] If you don't do anything to change the [18:51] ideology, all you're doing is kicking [18:53] the can down the road. You know that [18:54] it's going to lead to more conflict [18:55] later. So, how do you end conflict? You [18:57] have two options. You can either remove [18:59] all the people from there, which some [19:00] have suggested. [19:03] It's been done in other parts of the [19:04] world throughout history. It you either [19:07] remove the people from there or you have [19:09] to change the way they think. [19:11] Israelis don't want to don't want to [19:13] murder Palestinians. [19:16] They never have. [19:18] We want this thing to end. You know the [19:20] old the the expression, it's been [19:22] attributed to a number of different [19:23] people. Netanyao likes saying it a lot [19:25] so sometimes people quote him but it [19:27] comes it's older than him that if if [19:31] Israel laid down its weapons there'd be [19:33] no Israel if the Arabs laid down their [19:35] weapons there'd be peace [19:38] that's the question you have to ask [19:40] yourself that you have to be changing [19:42] getting Israel to fulfill its [19:43] commitments according to the Shahal [19:45] agreement so that we this is nonsense [19:49] this is this is forever war these are [19:51] war these are the wararm mongers we're [19:53] not the wararmongers ers. These are the [19:55] war mongers. [19:57] And he talks about building trust, [20:00] building trust between the between the [20:03] kamas and the Israelis. You know, they [20:05] they don't trust each other. Have to [20:07] build trust between them, [20:10] right? [20:12] Just think about that. [20:15] It it's it's just insane. Let me jump [20:17] ahead to one one last clip here. Well, [20:21] before I do that, um, very, very, uh, [20:25] exciting opportunity. We're doing a trip [20:27] in March, March 7th to 14th, Israel [20:30] behind the headlines tour. This is an [20:32] 8-day trip to Israel that will be led [20:34] throughout the entire trip by myself and [20:37] Dr. David Worms of the Center for [20:39] Security Policy in Washington DC, one of [20:41] the top experts in the Middle East, and [20:42] the world. You probably know him if you [20:45] watch the videos on the Israel 365 [20:47] channel. Every Sunday I interview him. [20:49] We talk about geopolitics and he is he's [20:52] amazing and we are this is a luxury VIP [20:56] exclusive trip uh five-star [20:59] accommodations and we will be having [21:01] high level meetings with high ranking [21:03] people in the Israeli military top [21:05] government officials. We'll be having [21:07] briefings from the leadership of [21:10] different communities in Israel like the [21:11] Drews community, the community in Judea [21:13] and Samaria, the communities in uh in [21:16] the Gaza envelope. will be meeting with [21:18] top leadership, top journalists in the [21:20] country. Uh really a a unique trip, not [21:23] the kind of trip you could ever take on [21:25] your own, not a normal pilgrimage trip [21:26] or a normal touring trip to Israel. It's [21:29] going to be a very special trip. Uh and [21:31] uh it is taking place March 7th to 14th. [21:34] Please, there's a link in the [21:35] description of this video. Please go [21:37] ahead and check out the landing page and [21:39] see if this is for you. Um and uh super [21:42] exciting. So you want to you want to [21:44] sign up for that. Let's take a look at [21:45] another clip here. [21:48] Here, let's look at this one. [21:51] >> You know, you need to find a framework [21:54] that allows both sides to preserve their [21:59] narratives, but to be able to step down [22:03] a very tall ladder of escalation that [22:06] they've gone up on. um to contain [22:09] elements of radicalization on all sides [22:13] uh which are extremely dangerous and [22:15] that you know that is not just in Gaza [22:17] or we see what's happening in the West [22:19] Bank with settlers you know these are [22:21] very very dangerous uh elements to [22:24] contain element radicalization um and to [22:28] do it in a way that you you acknowledge [22:31] that nobody's going to trust each other [22:33] on day one [22:34] >> I think that's quite probably a key uh [22:37] uh nobody's is going to trust each other [22:38] on day one because of the history of the [22:41] conflict and because they need to build [22:43] that trust. And what we're trying to [22:45] offer with the road map um um for Gaza [22:49] is a process that actually requires [22:52] a slow trust building uh to take place. [22:55] And I think that is what many people [22:56] recognize when they say that uh you know [22:59] violence is no longer the answer but [23:01] actually negotiations on a peaceful [23:02] peaceful way forward is. [23:06] There you have it. I couldn't have said [23:09] it better myself. That's the whole [23:11] That's the whole confused [23:14] confused [23:15] misguided ideology all there wrapped up [23:19] in one minute and a half clip. What does [23:21] he open with there in that clip? We need [23:23] to figure out a way to find a solution [23:26] that allows both sides to preserve their [23:29] narratives. What a great line. Okay, we [23:32] have a problem here. [23:34] What happens if uh I steal 50 bucks from [23:38] you [23:40] and uh I deny it and your narrative is [23:44] that I stole 50 bucks from you and my [23:46] narrative is no I didn't [23:50] have a conflict, [23:53] right? Let's come up with a solution [23:55] that allows both sides to preserve their [23:58] narrative. Well, what hap well what is [24:00] our narrative? Our narrative is [24:04] uh I don't know the truth of history. [24:06] The you see the Jewish people lived in [24:08] the land of Israel. We were exiled from [24:11] the land of Israel but some of us [24:13] remained throughout. We never gave up [24:15] hope of returning and no other sovereign [24:17] nation ever ever created a nation in the [24:21] land of Israel. It was a territory that [24:22] was held by other by other empires [24:24] throughout the throughout history. We [24:27] eventually came back and returned in the [24:28] interim. Uh, Muslim Arabs who had come [24:31] to the region through the Arab conquest [24:34] who never really identified with the [24:36] land either. they were nomadic peoples [24:38] who lived all across Arabia and Asia and [24:40] that that part of the world moved in and [24:44] uh because they're uh Muslims who [24:47] believe that it is an absolute blasphemy [24:49] for any lands that were ever governed by [24:51] Muslims to ever be governed by anyone [24:53] who's not Muslim can never accept any [24:55] Jewish sovereignty in the land of [24:57] Israel. Right? So that that's what [24:59] happened here. And we came back and we [25:00] wanted to we want to have a homeland in [25:02] our ancient homeland and live in peace [25:04] with our neighbors. That's our [25:05] narrative. Got it? But but we have a [25:07] problem because we have these because [25:08] there's the other truth of history which [25:10] is these Muslim Arabs who moved in from [25:12] the Levant and and took possession of [25:14] the land in the interim uh and are now [25:17] claiming that they're the indigenous [25:18] people and want us all dead and want us [25:21] to be removed. So what do we do? How do [25:24] we preserve both narratives? Help me out [25:27] here. How do we allow both sides to [25:29] preserve their narrative? What is that? [25:31] You think their narrative is that they [25:32] want a two-state solution? You think [25:33] their narrative is they want [25:34] self-determination? [25:36] Is that what you're saying? Yeah. Is [25:37] that their narrative? [25:40] We have to figure out a way to allow [25:41] both sides to preserve their narrative. [25:43] Their narrative is they want us all [25:44] dead. Our narrative is we want peace on [25:47] our borders. What if there is no way to [25:50] have everyone preserve their narrative? [25:53] You know, it's a slow trust building [25:55] process. It takes time. [25:58] These are the forever war people. That's [26:00] the main point I want to give you. I [26:01] want you. you need to push back. [26:04] All of the these you see that's the [26:07] irony. The peace camp is actually the [26:10] forever war camp because [26:13] they are in denial about what it [26:16] actually takes to solve these problems. [26:19] And when we talk about what it actually [26:20] takes to end these problems, to solve [26:22] them, to be done with it, no more [26:24] Iranian regime, no more, no more kamas. [26:27] And you know what we would have? We [26:29] would actually have peace. You see, [26:30] we're the peace camp. [26:33] We're not the war. I mean, it takes some [26:35] violence to get there. And when he says [26:38] violence isn't the answer, negotiation [26:39] is really show me what where does that [26:42] work? Give me the example where that [26:44] worked. [26:47] You know how America achieved peace with [26:49] Germany and how Germany became a [26:50] peaceful nation? Do you know how Japan [26:52] became a peaceful nation? It was pretty [26:54] violent. [26:56] We are the peace camp, not them. They're [26:58] the forever war camp. That's the point [27:00] of this video. That's the point of this [27:03] video. All right, I'm a little worked [27:04] up. Have a good day, everyone. See you [27:07] on the next one. God bless.
