Transcript [00:00] Moshe Feiglin, chairman of Zehut, [00:01] shalom. [00:02] >> Shalom, Yoni. Hello. [00:04] >> Let's begin with a few contradictions or [00:07] so-called contradictions. First of all, [00:09] you know, you're here with the pin of [00:11] the Holy Temple, Beit Hamikdash. [00:13] That's on one side. On the other side, [00:15] some would say, this your party [00:17] actually, especially if we will talk [00:18] about your connection with the Zionist [00:20] religious side party, you're out there [00:23] catering to the public, not only [00:25] religious, many secular people come to [00:27] your [00:28] party, your rallies, and your events, [00:31] and really are part of the party. So, [00:33] why put that on? Maybe maybe it might [00:35] deter them, no? [00:37] Some may say. [00:39] >> Not only that [00:42] that it's not a problem for them. They [00:44] proudly putting the pin pin as well. You [00:46] see seculars and religious and all [00:52] sides of Israeli society coming to our [00:55] conventions. [00:56] In Tel Aviv, in Ramat Gan, most of them [00:59] are not the religious, but all wearing [01:02] the the [01:03] the Mikdash pin. [01:05] Um [01:06] You know, Yoni, when when our soldiers [01:10] fought in Gaza, they saw in every house [01:13] the picture of Al-Aqsa. They also called [01:15] this war the Al-Aqsa war, right? Our [01:19] goal is the is Al-Aqsa. [01:22] And the soldiers asked themselves, do we [01:24] also have some something [01:27] bigger than it sounds? Do we also have [01:30] some kind of a vision that we we we we [01:32] fighting for or just fighting for [01:35] survival? [01:37] And they started to put the the Beit [01:39] Hamikdash patch on their the uniform. [01:43] >> And I think because it's it's much [01:46] bigger than religious thing. It's not [01:48] religious religion, it's identity. It's [01:52] culture. This is who we are. [01:54] This is the dream. I mean, the what what [01:57] is the reason for for the very existence [01:59] of the Jewish nation? [02:01] It's to [02:03] uh fix the world in the kingdom of God. [02:05] And the Torah show shows us exactly how [02:08] God expect expect us to do it. To take [02:11] over the land [02:13] that that he gave us, to take over the [02:15] holy city Jerusalem, and to build in the [02:17] holy city in in in the on the Temple [02:20] Mount the palace of God for the entire [02:22] humanity. This is the dream. This is the [02:25] message of the of the Jewish nation. [02:27] This is what the reason we exist to [02:30] begin with. Okay? Why create Why God [02:32] created this this nation to begin with. [02:34] So, this is the [02:36] the the the the key symbol of of our [02:40] identity, the Zehut. [02:42] >> Mhm. [02:43] >> Means identity. This is our identity. [02:47] And it's the identity of the religious, [02:51] non-religious. It's the identity of all [02:53] the Jews. [02:53] >> And another thing that some may see as a [02:55] contradiction [02:56] >> And by the way, and I think [02:58] most of the [03:00] Israelis that join Zehut are not [03:03] religious. [03:04] >> Another thing that some may see as a [03:06] contradiction, you're part of a party, [03:08] or you you're together with Betzalel [03:10] Smotrich and religious Zionist. You're [03:12] going to come to the president after the [03:14] elections and say, "We support [03:16] Netanyahu." On the other hand, [03:19] you do not support Netanyahu's policies. [03:21] You talk a lot of against what he has [03:23] done throughout the war before the war. [03:26] Explain this to me. [03:29] >> It's not about supporting Netanyahu. [03:31] It's about right after the election, [03:34] I'll uh [03:35] >> [clears throat] [03:35] >> we'll recommend for the for for for the [03:38] president [03:39] >> Mhm. [03:40] >> to uh give Netanyahu the ability to the [03:43] first choice [03:44] to uh [03:45] create a government. [03:46] >> Form a a government. I I definitely not [03:50] support Netanyahu's policy since uh [03:54] the geopolitical policy [03:56] I see I think that Netanyahu had to put [04:00] the keys [04:01] and resign right after the 7th of [04:03] October as Truman wrote on his desk [04:07] President Truman at the time the buck [04:09] stops here it doesn't matter [04:12] if your face was your fault or not the [04:16] buck stops here the responsibility stop [04:18] at the [04:19] at the head of the pyramid and you were [04:21] the prime minister 30 years [04:23] approximately before almost 30 years [04:25] before [04:25] >> That's in terms of responsibility but [04:27] many say but many say okay maybe you're [04:29] right regarding responsibility but what [04:31] he did throughout the war the [04:32] accomplishments he has to stay he's our [04:35] man the man on the right with the right [04:37] wing [04:38] >> Netanyahu is the best man [04:41] really [04:42] 10 degree 10 floors above everybody else [04:46] with the ability [04:49] to [04:51] function [04:52] inside [04:53] the borders [04:55] or or the ballgame of Oslo [04:58] okay but he never came and and [05:01] nobody else in the right besides though [05:04] never never came with a an alternative [05:07] vision to Oslo okay it's like we had the [05:11] Titanic [05:12] that keep on going [05:15] towards the the the iceberg okay [05:18] Netanyahu will give you the best [05:20] condition in that Titanic but will not [05:23] change the the the the course the [05:27] direction nevertheless [05:30] other right wing parties [05:32] >> So on a practical level let's look at [05:34] this war [05:34] >> I can I can [05:35] I can symbolize it differently [05:38] there's no better pilot [05:41] for the national jumbo jet okay [05:46] he is the best pilot. Uh [05:49] even better than this [05:51] plumber. Let's [05:52] save us [05:53] >> Plumber from Fly Dubai. [05:54] >> from Fly Dubai. No one is better than [05:56] than than than than Netanyahu. He's [05:59] amazing. [06:00] But [06:02] uh he flies a jumbo jet in in in [06:04] circles. [06:07] And [06:08] and the fuel slowly but surely [06:12] ends up. And every round we're going [06:15] until we [06:17] hit the 7th of October. Okay? Uh so so [06:21] why will I recommend about Netanyahu? [06:24] Because of course the other side of the [06:27] map [06:28] Eizenkot or Bennett or the left that [06:31] brought us to to begin with, okay, are [06:34] not the solution. You cannot bring the [06:36] problem the ideological problem and see [06:39] it as the solution. The the the side of [06:42] the solution is only the Jewish majority [06:45] as I call it, okay? Uh [06:48] which is the national camp which [06:50] unfortunately still uh voting and and [06:53] choosing Netanyahu to lead them. That's [06:55] why that's why I have to be there [06:58] within the Jewish majority, the national [07:00] camp and start changing the course of [07:04] the Titanic. [07:05] >> Let's go down uh to the field and let's [07:08] talk about Gaza Strip, the war there. [07:11] When people look at the Gaza Strip, it's [07:13] demolished. So many accomplishments. [07:15] We really are are are we're continuing [07:17] to killing killing the commanders of [07:20] Hamas. What's the problem there? What's [07:22] the the shift? How do you shift that or [07:24] how would you shift that earlier? [07:26] >> Well, first of all [07:28] you have to understand who's the who's [07:29] the enemy. [07:32] The enemy is not Hamas, Yoni. [07:35] For 3 weeks, if you remember, after the [07:38] 7th of October, everybody sat together [07:40] trying to think what should be the goal [07:42] of the war. Remember that? And the idea [07:45] of did nothing until the government will [07:47] will decide what should be the goal. [07:49] They just [07:50] did you the worst horrors since [07:52] Auschwitz, and you and you don't know [07:54] what the goal of the war is. [07:58] You so trapped in the Oslo conscience, [08:02] that all you do in this precious moment [08:04] where all the world was would be would [08:07] accept everything that you do, [08:09] everything. The Egyptians said at [08:12] the first week that they're willing to [08:13] to accept 200,000 [08:16] as [08:18] residents in in in in in Egypt, in [08:20] Sinai. [08:22] Okay? [08:23] Arabs in Judea and Samaria started to [08:25] pack and and and and and and run to to [08:29] to Jordan. [08:30] They were sure that now after that, the [08:32] Jews will do [08:34] no Oslo, no all the old rules going to [08:37] going to change. [08:39] All Netanyahu did is [08:41] let the steam go out, and let's get back [08:43] to the Oslo direction. Go back to the [08:46] 6th of October, and I was and I knew [08:48] that. [08:48] >> Surgically [08:50] attacking Hamas, not really [08:52] >> What are we, a mafia? [08:55] Or a state? [08:58] Mafias [09:00] hit each other [09:02] with hit men's, right? I'm not I'm not [09:05] against killing them, of course. Are we [09:07] at a national war [09:09] or [09:10] or it's some kind some kind of conflict [09:12] between mobs? [09:15] They kill us, we kill them [09:18] until until things will calm down. [09:21] Do we understand that the Gaza Strip [09:23] belongs to the Jewish nation? It's part [09:25] of Eretz Israel. Do I Do we understand [09:27] that? [09:28] Netanyahu understand that? That reflects [09:30] on everything. [09:31] Okay? [09:32] >> You know, you know, regarding that, [09:33] regarding that, many people, even on [09:35] your partner now, Smotrich, now he talks [09:37] about the Gaza being ours, but it [09:39] throughout the war, he also said let's [09:42] not talk about the that now. We need [09:44] consensus. We need our soldiers that are [09:46] coming from all the different camps of [09:47] Israel who are fighting for us, who are [09:49] sacrificing their lives. They don't all [09:51] feel that they're out there to reconquer [09:53] Gaza. You don't respect that claim? [09:56] >> No. I don't. [09:59] I don't. [10:00] >> The goal was should have been from the [10:02] beginning [10:02] >> The consensus [10:03] >> conquer, reconquer [10:04] >> The problem The problem here is not [10:06] consensus. [10:08] The problem here is a vision [10:11] and leadership [10:13] that [10:14] create that consensus [10:17] around this new vision. [10:20] The left had it. [10:21] You know, when they brought 30 years ago [10:23] in Oslo Arafat in maximum the PLO to [10:26] Israel. The first time the Israelis [10:29] heard [10:30] in 1992 [10:32] Okay? [10:33] In 1993 [10:35] that Rabin is going to make a deal with [10:38] Arafat from the PLO. Everybody was [10:40] shocked. [10:43] Even Yossi Sarid merits at the time said [10:46] we should not speak to the to Suddenly [10:47] he does it. [10:49] And later on there was a consensus [10:51] around it. It's called leadership. [10:54] The left had a vision. [10:56] And they created the and they keep and [10:58] they created the the consensus around [11:00] it. You, after the 7th of October, still [11:03] waiting for for a for a consensus? [11:06] And don't I mean the the the the the the [11:08] people would have gone after you [11:09] whatever you do. You did not have the [11:11] right vision. [11:12] >> No, that's not We're not in October 8th [11:14] now. We're 3 years later. Let's say you [11:17] enter the Knesset, the government, the [11:20] coalition. 3 years after, what has to be [11:23] done now? [11:25] >> First of all [11:28] throw away [11:30] the ethical code [11:31] code of the army. [11:34] that the that the concept of victory was [11:37] taken out of that. All this [11:40] uh [11:41] progressive concepts that built and that [11:44] actually destroyed the army should be [11:47] thrown out of the window. [11:49] Okay? [11:50] The the the the First of all, you need [11:52] to change change the spirit [11:55] of the army, of your armed forces, okay? [11:58] Get get away of all these [12:01] progressive concepts that destroyed the [12:03] army. You have to build again the ground [12:05] forces that you destroyed, literally [12:07] destroyed. You threw the tanks. [12:09] Destroyed you you destroyed the the the [12:12] the divisions. Five divisions you threw [12:15] out you threw out. You need to build the [12:17] army again. [12:19] And you need leadership [12:21] that uh [12:23] that this generation of heroes that grew [12:26] up here [12:28] deserve leadership that have the temple [12:31] pin on their jackets. They said the [12:34] solution is kibush gerush v'hitnashvut. [12:39] Conquer the other the the Gaza Strip. [12:42] Uh [12:44] expel all the residents of Gaza. None of [12:47] them can stay. [12:49] Gaza should be totally empty. [12:52] The and then hitnashvut re- re- [12:55] resettle, which means [12:57] today, 3 years later, Yoni, [12:59] all the villages of Gush Katif should [13:01] have been built again. We should have [13:03] heard the joy of kids playing in [13:05] kindergartens and and and and and and [13:07] learning Torah. And and we should have [13:10] seen now almost done the new [13:13] international airport of Israel being [13:15] built in the Gaza Strip. That is the [13:19] only way to win this war and to send a [13:22] signal to the entire to all our enemies [13:25] what happens when they attack us. [13:26] >> Without any support from the world? [13:28] Because even Trump is not for that at [13:31] this point. [13:31] >> It's [13:33] Trump was totally with [13:35] >> And why he why he stopped? [13:38] Because you didn't want. [13:40] Again, I'm not saying that you can [13:42] always do whatever you want. [13:44] But at least create that new vision. [13:48] And when it serves to you on a silver [13:50] platter, when the president of the [13:52] United States come come to you and tell [13:53] you do that, [13:55] do it. [13:56] Okay? Definitely [13:58] the 7th of October itself was not only [14:01] horrible, it was also an opportunity. [14:04] And you did not take it. Why? Because [14:06] you [14:07] you were not driven by your vision, but [14:10] by the leftist vision of Oslo. [14:13] >> Moshe Feiglin, chairman of Zehut, thank [14:15] you very much. [14:15] >> You're very welcome.
